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Title: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: sebastian on August 21, 2013, 11:50:44 AM
hello i turn all champion turn next spawm random everday neria necromancry , and all people finish champions not kill neria necromancry , neria hitpoints edit 1.400.000 k not kill everyone all champions random not kill sunmoned staying neria please chance admin , neria champions not kill everyone neria and not farm tier xp money and power scroll. i looking uoguide neiranecromancry hitpoints.

http://www.uoguide.com/Neira_the_Necromancer

Strength    305 - 425
Hit Points    4800

why u chance neria hitpoints 1.4 k and hard kill no group no party no kill no chance altar champions thank you.
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Silas DroSakhar on August 21, 2013, 12:59:01 PM
I'm guessing you'd like the hp on Neira to be changed to better reflect what UOGuide has listed.  However, this isn't OSI, and if her hp were changed, I'm sure they were changed for a reason.  Neira can be brought down, it just may take more than one person to do so.  Try getting a good group of people together to fight her next time, and maybe the results will be better.  :)
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 01:07:33 PM
It's no problem to kill Neira in a party, but i must say for the amount of HP her loot is very poor...
It's even worse than any other champ's loot, including Coon (and i hate him, he is annoying^^).

The discrepancy between her HP and the HP of other champs is simply explained:

A long time ago all champs have been raised in their strength. To almost impossible stats.^^
And i bet she is a relic of these dark ancient times.

;)

Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: rocktuff on August 21, 2013, 01:13:33 PM
yes I agree its not all that awful for nira to have such huge hit points not everything is meant to be easymode soloable lol <......is that even a word lol. but agreed the loot at the end is terrible for such a long fight. I liked the idea someone came up with for nira to drop randon crafting type powerscrolls to reward the fight and ensure some craft scrolls make it into the pandorian hands
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Horns Nigel on August 21, 2013, 01:18:53 PM
We did it yest with 4 vets and their pets, it took us over 2 hrs,   I must say the loot was very dissappointing, way too much time and effort for 2 110 power scrolls.   I'm not trying to complain here, but I think it needs to be looked at.....Nigel
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Electo Jason on August 21, 2013, 01:21:52 PM
Quote from: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 01:07:33 PM
It's no problem to kill Neira in a party, but i must say for the amount of HP her loot is very poor...
It's even worse than any other champ's loot, including Coon (and i hate him, he is annoying^^).

The discrepancy between her HP and the HP of other champs is simply explained:

A long time ago all champs have been raised in their strength. To almost impossible stats.^^
And i bet she is a relic of these dark ancient times.

;)



Hehe thats my favorite :)
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Tama on August 21, 2013, 01:22:40 PM
Well yesterday she took our 2.2 hours.. Also her drops seems like a joke because i just got 2x 110 parrying  after that 2 hours.. ;I agree Silas this is not OSI we're playing in different server.. But while thinking about Neira something should be change.. I mean her drops or her hp..
I said hp because there are 7 Neira spawns,1 Barra and 1 Forest Lord spawn in lost lands.. And while checking these spawns i saw Neira in 4-5 of them.. People just killing spawn monsters and when the champ spawned they run away (because that champ is mostly Neira in Lost Lands)
If our King-Admins don't want to change her drops or hp at least try to make a despawn timer for her  :'(
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 01:32:26 PM
I vote for:

- better loot in quality and quantity
- guaranteed relics
- guaranteed void orbs
- guaranteed crystals
- high chance for a crafting ps and/or a 120

;)
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: sebastian on August 21, 2013, 01:36:57 PM
Quote from: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 01:07:33 PM
It's no problem to kill Neira in a party, but i must say for the amount of HP her loot is very poor...
It's even worse than any other champ's loot, including Coon (and i hate him, he is annoying^^).

The discrepancy between her HP and the HP of other champs is simply explained:

A long time ago all champs have been raised in their strength. To almost impossible stats.^^
And i bet she is a relic of these dark ancient times.

;)


Which one of you sent a message to group and it's no exaggeration to say Hitpoint at uoguide know when something is not normal, but that is the original system, farm lands if we can not throw the media holding group, and only in this way or we sit and watch Let's play? :)
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: sebastian on August 21, 2013, 01:37:52 PM
Quote from: Horns Nigel on August 21, 2013, 01:18:53 PM
We did it yest with 4 vets and their pets, it took us over 2 hrs,   I must say the loot was very dissappointing, way too much time and effort for 2 110 power scrolls.   I'm not trying to complain here, but I think it needs to be looked at.....Nigel

Nigels 2 person , 2.5 hours killed neria :)
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 01:38:01 PM
I want to make clear that the last parts of this quote is not my saying.^^

This:
QuoteWhich one of you sent a message to group and it's no exaggeration to say Hitpoint at uoguide know when something is not normal, but that is the original system, farm lands if we can not throw the media holding group, and only in this way or we sit and watch Let's play?
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: sebastian on August 21, 2013, 01:47:57 PM
Quote from: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 01:38:01 PM
I want to make clear that the last parts of this quote is not my saying.^^

This:
QuoteWhich one of you sent a message to group and it's no exaggeration to say Hitpoint at uoguide know when something is not normal, but that is the original system, farm lands if we can not throw the media holding group, and only in this way or we sit and watch Let's play?

What do you think you can tell yourself that you do not know what the funny.
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Horns Nigel on August 21, 2013, 01:48:50 PM
I noticed that.....Nigel
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: sebastian on August 21, 2013, 01:47:57 PM
Quote from: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 01:38:01 PM
I want to make clear that the last parts of this quote is not my saying.^^

This:
QuoteWhich one of you sent a message to group and it's no exaggeration to say Hitpoint at uoguide know when something is not normal, but that is the original system, farm lands if we can not throw the media holding group, and only in this way or we sit and watch Let's play?

What do you think you can tell yourself that you do not know what the funny.

??????????????????????????

What?
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Keeblerboy on August 21, 2013, 01:58:37 PM
WoW!
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: sebastian on August 21, 2013, 02:03:30 PM
Quote from: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 01:32:26 PM
I vote for:

- better loot in quality and quantity
- guaranteed relics
- guaranteed void orbs
- guaranteed crystals
- high chance for a crafting ps and/or a 120

;)
I do not think admins decide to change a little bit longer want to have a heart :)

Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 02:07:59 PM
When you quote someone it would be appreciated not to insert your thoughts INTO the quote.
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: sebastian on August 21, 2013, 02:16:18 PM
he decided to change the admin can change the limit of hit points and the owner a chance to drop their hands on this server you are playing as a player you can understand not only offer ideas to keep the room on fire falls
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 02:25:37 PM
I have no idea what u want now.
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: sebastian on August 21, 2013, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 02:25:37 PM
I have no idea what u want now.
Can you please translate my documents  ,English is not good.

ne istiyorum biliyormusun   ,  adil olan neyse onu istiyorum güzel kardeşim. 1.400 k hitpoints olan başka hangi yaratık var ? ve bu sekilde hangisini tek başına öldürebilirsin , senın içinde benim içinde aynı kural geçerli .  championu aktive ediyorum barracoon cıkıyor öldürüyorum , daha sonra gene barracoon cııkıyor . öldürüyorum  , daha sonra neria cıkıyor ? onuda öldürdün diyelim tamam. ee nerde semidar riktorr

tamam oaks spawn belli ama gerisi nerde ? memphitis barracon neira bütün random championlar gerisi yok . ben bu işi anlamadım bende adminlik yaptım , oynadım bu oyunu 15 senedir. crafting scrollari düşüyor anlıyorum. diğer metaryaller hepsinden düşüyor zaten . neira kesmeyelim onuda anladım. ee millet nerde kasıcak tek başına takılıyor herkez solo farm yapıyor bende bunu anlamıyorum.

crafting power scroll temin etmek için bu kadar , zor bir championu öldürmeyide düşünemiyorum. uoguide gördün nekadar hitpoint str oldugunu bu  kadar ,abartmanın alemi nedir anlamadım tesekkürler.
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Tama on August 21, 2013, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: sebastian on August 21, 2013, 01:47:57 PM
Quote from: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 01:38:01 PM
I want to make clear that the last parts of this quote is not my saying.^^

This:
QuoteWhich one of you sent a message to group and it's no exaggeration to say Hitpoint at uoguide know when something is not normal, but that is the original system, farm lands if we can not throw the media holding group, and only in this way or we sit and watch Let's play?

What do you think you can tell yourself that you do not know what the funny.

??????????????????????????

What?


Well as usual we cant understand that sentence because of google translate..
I talked with Sebastian about "what did u want to say at that setence?" and he told me this;

We're not having fun like u in this game.. You developed/created guilds in this game and u have  pets.. Also u have nice set of armor and weps..We dont have these and no one is calling us while doing champs with their doni pets.. So in this situation how can we have fun while trying to do champs? How can we kill something like Neira with exaggerationed health?  We're just here to have some good time.. And while doing champs we're stressed because of these situations..


I hope it helps..

Ps; i just noticed that Sebastian wrote another post..

Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Horns Nigel on August 21, 2013, 02:52:02 PM
I don't have a doni pet and neither do many in my guild, we still enjoy doing champs, true we may need a few more members, but we still have a lot of fun, you are more then to join us any time.....Nigel
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Thatperson on August 21, 2013, 02:52:39 PM
of all the champs only niera is insane.. he's perfectly capable of doing any of the other champs for scrolls etc.. i have doni pets but never use them for champs, its too much hassle to keep them alive and its just easier for me with my automatic healing to go in alone.. i dont have a guild and never asked anyone for anything, got it all myself and am proud of it! he has built a sturdy enough suit to do the same..
sebastian, i chat with you in game, you are a good man, you know how to play the game, but you seem to want it all made easy for you.
i agree neira has gone mad, she should have something worth it like garenteed 120's or high chance for craft scrolls but unless you want her skull for the harrower you can choose from a wide range of champs for gold and scrolls
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: zaxarus on August 21, 2013, 02:54:35 PM
QuoteWe're not having fun like u in this game.. You developed/created guilds in this game and u have doni pets.. Also u have nice set of armor and weps..We dont have these and no one is calling us while doing champs with their doni pets.. So in this situation how can we have fun while trying to do champs? How can we kill something like Neira with exaggerationed health?  We're just here to have some good time.. And while doing champs we're stressed because of these situations..

If you don't have fun in this game i am very sorry. But that's not my fault. It's also not my fault that Neira's HP suck.
I've worked for the things i have, very hard. And partially in times when it was harder to imbue stuff. Harder than now. It is not impossible to make gear, also to buy stuff. If you cannot donate, you can always try to trade or buy pbucks from players. So i don't feel ashamed just because i did what i could do. Sorry.^^

I've killed Neira also with weaker items and w/o a doni pet. And that was when she not only had tons of HP (same as now!) but also spammed Blood Oath and Spirit Speak from the beginning. It can be hard, takes time, but it's not impossible.
That's why i say make her loot better.

If you want help with Neira then call. I am not responsible for your spawns and when, how and where you kill them, am i?
Whining won't help anyone of us. What we can do is ask for better rewards, that's what we did.

But i rly am not responsible when you are not willing OR able to work for your stuff. That's part of the game. There are also other spawns. For example the Primeval Lich.

Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Horns Nigel on August 21, 2013, 03:02:51 PM
Yes, I like the Lich very much.....Nigel
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: sebastian on August 21, 2013, 03:18:30 PM
Quote from: Thatperson on August 21, 2013, 02:52:39 PM
of all the champs only niera is insane.. he's perfectly capable of doing any of the other champs for scrolls etc.. i have doni pets but never use them for champs, its too much hassle to keep them alive and its just easier for me with my automatic healing to go in alone.. i dont have a guild and never asked anyone for anything, got it all myself and am proud of it! he has built a sturdy enough suit to do the same..
sebastian, i chat with you in game, you are a good man, you know how to play the game, but you seem to want it all made easy for you.
i agree neira has gone mad, she should have something worth it like garenteed 120's or high chance for craft scrolls but unless you want her skull for the harrower you can choose from a wide range of champs for gold and scrolls

of all the champs only niera , yes thank you brother. u good friends and game friends .
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Johana on August 21, 2013, 07:27:26 PM
I must admit I do have a very nice pet and use it for champing solo but a set of gear with high sdi and slayer spell books work very well at most champ spawns.  Now if you had two players doing the same there is no need for a donation pet.

P.S. Oh Nirea's hp is way too high to make the champ worth the effort.   Last time I did that one was like 6 months ago and it took way too long even with donation pets.
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: sebastian on August 21, 2013, 08:39:23 PM
Quote from: Johana on August 21, 2013, 07:27:26 PM
I must admit I do have a very nice pet and use it for champing solo but a set of gear with high sdi and slayer spell books work very well at most champ spawns.  Now if you had two players doing the same there is no need for a donation pet.

P.S. Oh Nirea's hp is way too high to make the champ worth the effort.   Last time I did that one was like 6 months ago and it took way too long even with donation pets.


my problem is not pet
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: zaxarus on August 22, 2013, 04:07:20 AM
Quoteand u have  pets.

Mhmm.

So what's the problem then? Takes too long? That's everyone's problem with Neira.^^

Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Johana on August 22, 2013, 03:03:51 PM
Too long for too little reward.
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Dwarvey on August 22, 2013, 03:08:38 PM
Let's not forget killin yourself several times due to bloodoath. OMG I hate that. See 150-200 damage and watch the world go grey  >:(
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: sebastian on August 22, 2013, 05:11:41 PM
Quote from: Dwarvey on August 22, 2013, 03:08:38 PM
Let's not forget killin yourself several times due to bloodoath. OMG I hate that. See 150-200 damage and watch the world go grey  >:(

yes good necro neria :=) and high bosses
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Walker on August 23, 2013, 08:41:11 AM
The biggest problem with Neira is the fact that she was avoided for the most part pre-patch before she got the HP boost. Now her HP has quadrupled with the same loot as before. She was already the slowest and hardest champ to do with the highest death rate (with blood oath wrecking face).
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Horns Nigel on August 23, 2013, 02:24:39 PM
I really don't think its that hard with 4 players, just takes way too long....Nigel
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: zaxarus on August 23, 2013, 02:57:44 PM
Yup, as said, it's not the "risk - reward" thing, it's just the "time - reward" thing...
She has no use atm, except being terribly annoying.

Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: sebastian on August 23, 2013, 08:03:24 PM
Although I wish I could go and loot guaranteed-ensured we kill tons of people, but is much more than necessary to kill all Hitpoint.
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Ladibug on August 27, 2013, 04:47:11 PM
Just a thought on Neira...and all NPC mosnters/persons. Why dont we try increasing AI on these things instead of just having npc's with really high HP? I've experienced this on other shards and it makes it much more fun and challenging. Simple lich's casting poison on you right when you're trying to heal. Casting para when you try to run. They use a variety of spells from all types of magery/necro/chiv/...etc. I did a tmap in Tokuno on one where elite ninjas spawned, and they would hide and shadow jump around. Was pretty cool imho. =D
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: sebastian on August 28, 2013, 03:13:36 PM
Quote from: Ladibug on August 27, 2013, 04:47:11 PM
Just a thought on Neira...and all NPC mosnters/persons. Why dont we try increasing AI on these things instead of just having npc's with really high HP? I've experienced this on other shards and it makes it much more fun and challenging. Simple lich's casting poison on you right when you're trying to heal. Casting para when you try to run. They use a variety of spells from all types of magery/necro/chiv/...etc. I did a tmap in Tokuno on one where elite ninjas spawned, and they would hide and shadow jump around. Was pretty cool imho. =D

Can you tell me again, because I never read what he wrote yourself do not understand something?????
Title: Re: Champion Next Spawm
Post by: Ladibug on September 02, 2013, 01:32:45 AM
Sebastian...sorry I don't understand what you're asking or trying to say.
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