The new changes to grab I feel are going to be very detrimental to Pandora and to her players. By allowing [grab you let us clean up our messes, keep our field of vision clear when there are so many corpses you cant see the ground, let alone find your corpse even with control/shift. With a shard as busy as Pandora, at any given time there can and will be hundreds and hundres of corpses laying around waiting on decay. It can cause immense lag for the server, and some players don't have great connections and all those bodies can cause them lag. If you change it to [grab empty bodies only, that will not help. Who totally loots a corpse. Restricted weight, loot trash No Way! Only in Dungeons? Doom is a dungeon, [grab doesnt work there, Solen Hive, not there either, just to name two. Please, Please let use clean up, keep lag down. Ever heard the saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Also, thanks for your decision to return Iron Beetles back to full shrinkable packs.
it doesnt recognise ter mur as a dungeon either
It was either this, or remove it completely.
Obviously it still needs tweaks, the entire code was re-written.
The old Grab command was dangerous and didn't consider others when you're looting.
What if it deleted a corpse with a rare item on it? Grab trashes everything except items with 300+ weighting.
Quote from: Vorspire on March 06, 2013, 06:07:37 AM
It was either this, or remove it completely.
Obviously it still needs tweaks, the entire code was re-written.
The old Grab command was dangerous and didn't consider others when you're looting.
What if it deleted a corpse with a rare item on it? Grab trashes everything except items with 300+ weighting.
The old grab didnt work unless you were far away from other players & had looting rights.. so I dont see why it was dangerous? the only corpses you could delete were ones that 'belong' to you
And that's exactly how it works now, minus deleting non-empty corpses.
Trust me, if you read the code of the old command and understood it, you'd call it dangerous too.
At the end of the day, Konstantine told me to remove the grab command completely.
The fact that it's still in the game is a miracle.
before champ monsters corpse (not boss)is used to disappear on its own.so we need this system again:)because we cant use grab anymore.
Question.
The old Grab command, did it let you use it anywhere?
Yes, in answer to your question, [grab could be used everywhere, only on your corpses and I use grab only after I have finished looting a corpse unless at champs. I look before I use grab. This morning doing a Tmap, I had to wait for spawn to decay before I could take lockpick to chest, being covered with corpses. There has to be a happy medium someplace.
old grab command help us alot of when we doing champ or mini champ.now hard to see monster in game :)corpses close to living monsters :)
I'm willing to lift the restrictions if people are willing to accept they could be deleting important items and promise they won't complain about it if they do ;)
What I don't understand is that currently, champ trash spawns have their corpses deleted instantly on death, this will be changed to a 3 minute decay after the next reboot.
I do quite a few champs, after the last major patch, the one where the champ graphic changed when dying, the champ trash does not disappear on death. I like that chance, I also do not mind the way [grab works now, with the exception of champs. I get so many corpses on the ground, I cannot see anything, and in turn forces me to move, sometimes outside of the champ region, which causes the spawn deaths to not count towards candles. One option I was considering suggestion was perhaps the new [grab combines items into one corpse, while deleting all the others, allowing [grab to be useful at champs again, as well as not deleting rare items. Not sure if that is the best way, but it is one thought I had.
Miki - You know you can ctrl+shift and see where the treasure chest is at. You don't have to wait for the corpses to decay.
I haven't been on to test [grab yet. But i really love that feature. It helps a lot.
ctrl + shift doesnt work when theres so many corpses all with a name tag that shows with ctrl +shift too. finding the renowned when it spawns under the hundreds of corpses at mini champs is impossible.
Im perfectly happy with these changes but i would like to see it extended worldwide not just in dungeons, or at least add styg abyss to the dungeon list as the mini champs are a big mess
The command is actually configurable in-game without a restart, we have an option to disable dungeons only, but I have a feeling it can be misused somewhat.
I've modified the command for the next reboot, the updated notes are in the publish topic.
good man, i will admit i have accidentlly [grabbed when there was something i wanted to loot so i totally see what your trying to acheive :)
I've decided to factor in a requirement that corpses be at least 10 seconds old before they can be grabbed.
Quote from: Thatperson on March 06, 2013, 02:39:11 PM
ctrl + shift doesnt work when theres so many corpses all with a name tag that shows with ctrl +shift too. finding the renowned when it spawns under the hundreds of corpses at mini champs is impossible.
Im perfectly happy with these changes but i would like to see it extended worldwide not just in dungeons, or at least add styg abyss to the dungeon list as the mini champs are a big mess
Yes it does. You can right click the names that pop up so they disappear, and find the one you are looking for. Yes, it's easier to [grab...but I'm just saying if that wasn't an option...it's not hard to find the corpse or item you are looking for.
After last reboot [grab is superb :D gives you a moment to change your mind, but allows me to clean up my mess.. more gold too and finally i am getting some trash tokens (im not a corpse picker, hehe) :]
top job!
this new system great.vorspire you making always better.thank you:)good work:)
Grab is working well, easier to get trash tokens....Nigel
Just a footnote I think I left out of the patch notes - you will only get trash tokens if you have a personal trash bag, septic tank or trash can in your pack.
I'm adding a list of misc items for Grab to collect, are there any important misc items that anyone thinks should be processed by the Grab command?
Currently on the list:
- Treasure Maps
- World Maps
- Special Scrolls
- Fishing Baits
- House Paints
- Dye Tubs
- Pigments Of Tokuno
- Bandages
- Talisman
- Armor (Rare+)
- Weapons (Rare+)
- Clothing (Rare+)
- Jewellery (Rare+)
Imbue mats?
P coins. O coins. ?....Nigel
[grab seems to have stopped working in stygian abyss again. Also in fel dungeons you can [grab all the way round till you get the the champ zone then you can no longer grab, it tells you you must be in a dungeon
I've fixed it again, should be working now. Some of the options defaulted after the reboot.
Thank you
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