If you're a player who is relatively new to Pandora, I would like your advice on a few things as I am trying to streamline the new player journey more efficiently.
If you don't mind, reply:
1. What was some positive things you experienced when you came to Pandora? What are some things that made you stay?
2. What issues did you have when you first logged into the shard? It is a lot to take in as we have many systems and loads of content, but I'm looking for things that you really stumbled on your first couple days?
3. What could we improve on Pandora from the moment you log in and walking around your first day?
4. Anything you want to add, good or bad - As it will give me a better idea how it is when first experiencing Pandora. I'd like to add to the good things and change the bad ones. - This can even include things you ran into in your first couple months that seemed like to much of a struggle.
Thank you.
Well the first things I had, not trouble with but just didn't know, was good places for starting players to hunt for the right stuff to speed them along there journey. I have a thought on this, the new player dungen should be open to new players for like a month and have chances to drop imbue runes, not matts mind you but a complete rune, wouldn't have to be full intensity but something to really help a new on the shard, player.
Thank you for the input Giggles.
Got plans for making a tab in the public gate system "For Young & New"
-a few areas to hunt at
-ressurection garden (res ur pet among other things)
-luna bank (i know there allready is a luna bank, but look at it in this way, before there were 7 insula locations in the public gate system!!)
and players are free to point out whats good for new players to be at etc
edit: good idea about imbuerunes giggles, possible to do it actually.. Imbuerunes work in a different way but i might be able to make it drop some random imbuerunes, up to 50-75% intensity
a book that spawns in the backpack of all new chars explaining the multiple currency system, telling them to check pandorian settlements on the gate for arti room and coin houses etc, introduction the the chat system and Pandora toolbar, list of commands like [grab or [pm etc plus a reminder that theres a comprehensive wiki. just a small thing that saves them thinking they have to ask the question
Bring back New Insula the way it was, when I started it was the heart of Pandora, old players hung around the bank and new players fought the training elemental's across the river.
All the shops are there, and there were tons of players vendors, I remember thinking how great that was when I started....Nigel
Quote from: Horns Nigel on February 04, 2014, 04:22:10 PM
Bring back New Insula the way it was, when I started it was the heart of Pandora, old players hung around the bank and new players fought the training elemental's across the river.
All the shops are there, and there were tons of players vendors, I remember thinking how great that was when I started....Nigel
We have tried to bring it back twice, it doesn't catch on like it used too -- The main reason why everyone hung out there cause of training elementals. But people don't train near as much as they used too.
It seems like Luna is the place & I admit, it doesn't have the same feel as Insula... But yeah we have tried that just a couple months ago & everyone would hang in Luna.. New players felt lost arriving in Insula - At least they start in a town they know now.
I agree with you tho - Those were some glory days...
How about putting a gate right in the middle of Luna bank, a portal to New Insula, put an extra voting stone there to get the players used to going back there, maybe a good place to add some new special vendors that will only sell the new goods there? Add some new monsters where the training elementals were.
It would be so great to get that town going again, I will commit to spending more time hanging out there, I am sure there are others that will too.....Nigel
I'd love to see our old new insula being used again. I really miss it. :(
Quote from: Horns Nigel on February 04, 2014, 06:46:47 PM
How about putting a gate right in the middle of Luna bank, a portal to New Insula, put an extra voting stone there to get the players used to going back there, maybe a good place to add some new special vendors that will only sell the new goods there? Add some new monsters where the training elementals were.
It would be so great to get that town going again, I will commit to spending more time hanging out there, I am sure there are others that will too.....Nigel
Nigel, I am with you - But you know we just changed it to Luna 2 patches ago? - It was Insula with only vendors etc for 6 months.. Didn't work... But I will try.
TY Kon, I wasnt aware of that? Maybe if we all help put the word out there this time it will be a success......Nigel
I may or may not have been checking out other shards. There a few aspects on all of them that i really enjoyed and wished Pandora had.
1) Fishing bods; We have a zillion types of fish, why not use them. With useful rewards but not extravagant, like ancient fishing nets and deco, ocoins. This would bring back fishing!
2) Monsters need a tweak; They have like 100k+ hit points. No i don't think they should be easier, but take less time to do. I've missed [battles alot cause i was mid way through a champ or peerless and didn't want to skip out on the 15min of work i've been doing.
3) I saw a shard that a bunch of new spells that i've never seen on UO, i had to log on there just to check them out. They were awesome. It was fun to have something different!
4) I saw +5 hit (leech mana, health, lightning, whatever), tokens that can push a weapon beyond that 50% cap, can only have one on a weapon. Gives them something unique not every weapon would be the same as it is now.
...I realize these aren't new player suggestions, but it seemed relevant. The main thing that always keeps me on Pandora is the community. Of all the shards i've seen, Pandora is fortunate enough to have the best community (by far). I've been way some 2-3months, soon as people saw i was onlin i kept getting people greeting me. Amazing for an online game community.
Ty for the new gate at Luna Bank, However that's for Old Insula, I was talking about putting one there for New Insula, wasnt sure if that gate was put there by mistake, but actually gates there to both places would work great as well....Nigel
Quote from: Horns Nigel on February 05, 2014, 10:18:13 PM
Ty for the new gate at Luna Bank, However that's for Old Insula, I was talking about putting one there for New Insula, wasnt sure if that gate was put there by mistake, but actually gates there to both places would work great as well....Nigel
The New Insula has been going through map static changes from OSI end - Since we always have newest client, we had to get out of there as it therefore changes on our end. Sorry.
Quote from: Saturn on February 05, 2014, 09:31:58 PM
I may or may not have been checking out other shards. There a few aspects on all of them that i really enjoyed and wished Pandora had.
1) Fishing bods; We have a zillion types of fish, why not use them. With useful rewards but not extravagant, like ancient fishing nets and deco, ocoins. This would bring back fishing!
2) Monsters need a tweak; They have like 100k+ hit points. No i don't think they should be easier, but take less time to do. I've missed [battles alot cause i was mid way through a champ or peerless and didn't want to skip out on the 15min of work i've been doing.
3) I saw a shard that a bunch of new spells that i've never seen on UO, i had to log on there just to check them out. They were awesome. It was fun to have something different!
4) I saw +5 hit (leech mana, health, lightning, whatever), tokens that can push a weapon beyond that 50% cap, can only have one on a weapon. Gives them something unique not every weapon would be the same as it is now.
...I realize these aren't new player suggestions, but it seemed relevant. The main thing that always keeps me on Pandora is the community. Of all the shards i've seen, Pandora is fortunate enough to have the best community (by far). I've been way some 2-3months, soon as people saw i was onlin i kept getting people greeting me. Amazing for an online game community.
Saturn we like you too much for you to be checking out other shards. :'(
Good post. -- We used to have a fishing bod system or was working on one at one time, but you just reminded of how much I wanted it when I was thinking about it a long time ago.. Simply other things come up and you forget --- I will look into this. That is a big system that takes countless time to code from the ground, might be possible to trade with a shard that has the skeleton foundation for it, then rebuild it from there.
I also liked some of your other suggestions too - They def. open up some other avenues and get the creative mind flowing. --
Thank you all that.... And yes we do have some cool people here... We have more people than most shards for sure, others have more than us -- But I feel like we have a really solid quality about the feel of the community and the world they inhabit -- I've had other shard owners ask me what that X factor is, that subtle magical thing Pandora has, that you really can't pinpoint...
They think because we have more content than anyone.. No, it's the people. -- I appreciate you recognizing that and reminding me.
Sorry to interrupt, but
Quote2) Monsters need a tweak; They have like 100k+ hit points. No i don't think they should be easier, but take less time to do
You can't be serious.
I have to agree, seems a bit extreme Saturn...Nigel
Quote from: zaxarus on February 06, 2014, 05:25:39 AM
Sorry to interrupt, but
Quote2) Monsters need a tweak; They have like 100k+ hit points. No i don't think they should be easier, but take less time to do
You can't be serious.
Thanks for the input. Can't say I understand that point, but I'll take it.
My sole point is that I've had time to go out for a smoke and come back while my character is hacking away. Doesn't really feel like i'm playing anymore at that point. Also, newer players deal less damage, it must take them an awful long time to try an take down a boss. And if they die in between, good heavens, there goes there plans for an evening of adventure. I didn't say anything about difficulty, things should be strong (maybe a bit stronger than they already are), but I can't really be on board with anyone who thinks its a good idea (or productive) to spend 20-30min staring at a screen while your ai macro chisels away at them.
The idea is:
When you are (fully) geared/imbued no single monster that does spawn on this shard (currently*) is a huge problem. So bosses shouldn't be too easy (fast) to kill.
A player with lesser gear shouldn't try to kill the "large" bosses anyway. So everybody sticks to what he is able to do.
Or not?
* The new lands and monsters will be harder.
My apologies Saturn, In my early senility I misread your post and made assumptions of what you were saying, My bad, I will just head back now to my recliner and continue my drooling session, maybe pull up some websites for my future nursing home ???..... Nigel
I only view the time it takes as a hindrance for me to do/join other activities. I don't view 'easy' and 'fast' as being synonymous in this matter. Nor do I wish for them to take 2 seconds to kill. I do, however, view 20min to be excessive.
Currently underway with the "For Young & New" tab in publicgate system, feel free to suggest a location that might be nice for new players to know off.. I will add a small information house, so the players can learn about [c and [pm etc. But if you think or know a new player should know of "that" location, feel free to mention it to me here, or pm (ingame or forum). Duplicate or not (i.e. that location exists under another tab in the publicgate system, but for easier access, ill make a new accesspoint via the new tab)
Quote from: GM NollKoll on February 11, 2014, 01:28:47 PM
Currently underway with the "For Young & New" tab in publicgate system, feel free to suggest a location that might be nice for new players to know off..
all they need is a gate to FALALALALA's house!
We all know where I think a helpful place for all new players is.
Quote from: GM NollKoll on February 11, 2014, 01:28:47 PM
Currently underway with the "For Young & New" tab in publicgate system, feel free to suggest a location that might be nice for new players to know off.. I will add a small information house, so the players can learn about [c and [pm etc. But if you think or know a new player should know of "that" location, feel free to mention it to me here, or pm (ingame or forum). Duplicate or not (i.e. that location exists under another tab in the publicgate system, but for easier access, ill make a new accesspoint via the new tab)
Noll you're sweet.
Wow this post reminded me of the day I started at New Insula. Man those were good times.
Quote from: Tyrone Biggums on March 30, 2014, 11:55:08 AM
Wow this post reminded me of the day I started at New Insula. Man those were good times.
yeah they were, it's just not the same now though - That was when you had to train your skills so people trained there.. Kind of made people stick around.
Like I mentioned in a reply before, we have tried bringing it back, but people still hang in Luna cause of the housing convenience, etc.
Yea I completely agree but it was nice nostalgia for a brief moment :)
I would like to know for what purpose already start a character with all books, 100 in all skills, 100000 gold ... among other benefits.
is that I played in other shard and the dynamics was to start from scratch and work your way up gradually giving dynamics to the game.
but it is not a review, really liked Pandora, is that I am new to the game and would like to know the reasons for this such changes.
thank you
and divulge the max for my friends here in Brazil.
XD
Quote from: pedrovsk on June 16, 2014, 04:00:44 PM
I would like to know for what purpose already start a character with all books, 100 in all skills, 100000 gold ... among other benefits.
is that I played in other shard and the dynamics was to start from scratch and work your way up gradually giving dynamics to the game.
but it is not a review, really liked Pandora, is that I am new to the game and would like to know the reasons for this such changes.
thank you
and divulge the max for my friends here in Brazil.
XD
We were the first shard, and really the only one still with full Stygian Abyss & most of High Seas. With that comes much more game exploration -- Mainly, the full and complex Imbuing system which all players must use to better their char.. That gives enough work in its self, so instead of making a UO player log in with nothing (as most UO players have done so many times, and it gets just not worth it after years) we give them what they need to survive, as they have a long and dynamic road ahead of them already.
We found, Ultima being the genre game it is, many players have played before and simply leaving your character away from keyboard to gain skills didn't add to the game as much as it once did.. Also keep in mind we are no skill cap, so you you are capable to getting to 120 in all skills from 100 with power scrolls and you must in some skills to move forward in the game in general.. And you must eat the scrolls in order, 105, 110, 115, 120 ... That alone is more dynamic and takes longer than getting 1 skill to 100.
I hope this gives you a basic idea of just a couple reasons why.. Let me know if you have any more questions. Thank you much for playing.
thanks for the reply!
at the moment and that's all.
good game at all. XD