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refreshing a guys house while he's away in r/l isn't exploiut or cheating ... though i agree it violated rule 1c

rule 1c was put in place so that you wouldn't have characters in opposing factions on each account farming silver etc from each other ... i can't speak for either kon or giz but i doubt if either give a toss that an account wos used for 10 secs, 10 mins wotever to refresh the house and greb a couple of rune books

it has been ages since art did that, but bel's account, as a result, wos 'linked' to art's and thus the confusion, nothing more, nothing less

as for the unravelling macro, i spoke directly with gizmo about this also ... and gizmo stated it wosn't for that the account wos deleetd, but for it showing 4 active accounts
i also told gizmo, and i don't think he'd mind me sharing what my opinion was regarding the unravelling macro, though our opinions might differ
how can it be an exploit to make exceptional cleavers at the soulforge with a 5,000 use tinkertool from the ingame toolbox, and unravel them to gain a magical residue, set up on a macro, but you can do the exact same thing in terms of crafting similar stuff with a multi-use tool in heartwood and get all the runics you want ... in fact gizmo was going to write a script to help those of us who are a bit computer stupid like myself, to do just that

i've never called you a scrub ... go back through this thread, reread, and get yer facts straight, and in fact have said despite you being a stupid little fuck, that you'll still be able to use the rune and reference library once it's up ..

and read carefully .. it's YOUR guild that has the person that used to be a counsellor on abc with gizmo .. i can't even begin to imagine if that person had been in our guild, what additional crap you'd be trying to throw at us

lot of folks talking shit about you now .. it's why i still feed your drama queen troll appetite so people can read both our posts and form their own opinions about each of us .. have a nice day :-)

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wtf are you on about trinsic mayor .. once again yer totally wrong ... i'd even go back over yer last two posts and address each item again, but it's a waste of time .. you're like some ugly arse creation that mutates and spawns into something more ludicrous and dumber each time

i also have chatted with gizmo on this and the accounts got deleted becos gizmo thought art wos running 4 accounts .. when he wos running his legal three, and becos art has access to bel's account the logs were interpretting it as 4

gizmo in my opinion jumped the gun on the this one, and coming up to bel while he was picking up his rune library off the ground and calling him 'cheater' is way off base ... giz just happens to be human like the rest of us

when asked about the revert both bel and art said they would rather not inconvenience the whole shard by doing a 3 day revert but bite the bullet and get help from the gm's on restoring the accounts ... YOU should be thanking THEM you selfish self absorbed little fuck

also, instead of hijacking other's threads, why don't you start a new thread here in the Off Topic section titled "i'm a UO drama queen, come discuss the latest conspiracy theories here"

i wos laffing today becos i have this image of you as a chihuahua wearing a Spanish Inquisition outfit .. yapping away and not happy until you get your quota of innocent people tortured and burned every day

you're sad and sick, but gizmo was right, if it wasn't you, it'd be some other little fuck who's jealous of wot others achieve through their hard work

and for the record, i have no problem that one of your guild members used to be a counselor with gizmo on abc ... i don't think that that implies anything wrong or that any favor is bestowed upon your guild ... whereas i think gizmo made a wrong call on the account deletions, i have respect for his integrity and what he tries to do for the shard .. why don't you make a leap of faith and adopt a similar mindset

lol .. i been gone for 30 hours from vent and game ... am curious wot i'll find when i log in :-)

lol ... glad ya started yapping again my little chihuahua ...

let's address each point one at a time, though i'm changing the order about a bit:

So i will probally be banned because you "donated alot more money than I have"

i think you're making a wrong assumption here ... my opinion is anybody who exploits/hacks the game should be punished/banned regardless of whether they donated or not ... i think you are sorely mistaken if you think Kon or Gizmo would choose a hacking donator over an ethical non-donator, and am happy for that philosophy to apply directly to me .. no side-stepping the issue

I also asked the question who is Skald?This question was avoided like the plague when asked to you

it wasn't avoided, if you recall the conversation had degenerated to where you had wound me up with your silly accusations, and a lot of things didn't get discussed further, this happened to just be one of those.

#1 if skald had a gm account and was abusing it, it's news to me, though obviously i also have heard rumors to that effect, from varying sources

#2 i sincerely cannot address the xan issues or the one from your unnamed source not through trying to avoid them, but because i know nothing about them

#3 "He created u a coin mob that spawned every 5 mintues. Rachel(icem) was farming that shit for awhile until gizmo deleted it"


he didn't create a coin mob for me, nor as far as i know, for the guild, though again, i have definately heard rumors about it
skald seems to no longer be playing so i cannot ask him directly ... when he was leaving he told me it was because the changes to stealth had made his playstyle of a thief/rogue unplayable, which i accepted as the reason, if it was for other reasons, i'd think only Kon or Gizmo would be aware of them
perhaps there is some truth, that i definately do not know ... i questioned rachel directly in vent about this either yesterday or the day before ... she says she knows nothing about it, and i have no reason not to believe her ... i have no way of telling if that's the truth or not, but i say this here clearly, i'd be genuinely dissappointed if i'm being lied to
again, game logs that can be seen by Kon or Gizmo will sort it out

I also saw Niro taking items from the resource containers furiously from one container to the other until he saw me

the resource containers have been explained to you .. i'll try it again ... the rear resource container holds the bulk of the guild resources ... at times hundreds of thousands of some resources .. it is only accessed by coowners of the house of which niro is one ... to minimise the risk of a member getting disgruntled and wiping out all of our resources the front container holds a small fraction of the number of resources of the rear container, and is accessible by every guild member ... niro was transferring a huge quantity of ingots from the rear container to the front so that his gargoyle alt, who is guilded but not coowned, would have access to them them

This was 4am eastern time the night i accidently clicked remove thyself from house in that "player town

this i'm highly interested and curious about ... since you weren't friended to the house, i know because i check the list every day, how was it that you were able to walk about in a private house? ... i doubt you're a gm because then you'd know that you're wrong, and wouldn't be bringing this up ... so it leaves the alternative that you're perhaps using an exploit .. i say 'perhaps' because i won't make ridiculous assumptions like you seem to, and give you a fair opportunity to explain yourself on this point

so now that i have addressed every point, though not resolved each one since like i said some i'm not any more aware of than yourself on the rumors, i ask you fairly and squarely once again:

where am i being dishonest? what haven't i addressed for you to the best of my abilities, what is this conspiracy theory?
so far you've implicated others in my guild, and in turn i have asked them about the issues and told you the responses, but you have yet to bring forward ONE point about ME being a cheat, hacker, exploiter, liar and dishonest, and those are things you accused me of

i simply ask of you three things:

1. address issues regarding others, with the others ... the way you twist things and talk in generalities is how vicious lies and rumors, that might have started with a granule of truth, get distorted and blown out of proportion

2. address to me directly any accusations you have about me, which you have yet to do

3. address the issue of you having access to a private house that you're not friended to

As for this drama around Corp Mani, I find Tamer Bods to be much more interesting... And I haven't collected bods since the Tamer Bod books were removed.

if that kind of crap was talked about you personally, or your guild, given the passionate P^M response to being in CoM together, i'm sure you'd have more interest .. but if it wos about P^M, i'd be yawning also admittedly lol

well, people are all different I guess... what can ya do?

I stand and face my accusers and ask them to step up and list the accusations specifically so that they can be explained specifically

i can accept them apologising for their false accusations

i can accept they don't have the intestinal fortitude to do either of the above

either way i will go about having fun and enjoying the game .. hope ta see ya there :-)

and I truly doubt the server could handle 150+ users with their own mini-town.

ah ..yer completely right there ... as the server has grown i have even volunteered to Kon to tear the town down if it causes any kind of lag/stability issues for the server .. i think i mentioned it in passing earlier on in this thread .. Kon has assured me it's fine ... of the millions of items in game the town is 'relatively' miniscule

my feeling has been, and is, that the good of the shard comes before the good of the individual, whether donator or not  :lol:

all is good

But you must admit, if you were new and stumbled upon that you would think somebody was doing something completely illegal.... which is how Trinsic got started on it in the first place

actually, if i wos new, and stumbled upon something i'd not seen on another server i'd either think ..'wow, awesome that they can do those things here', or i'd grow some balls and bring the matter up with the home owner

as a new player i'd not be arrogant enough to think that having arrived on the shard recently, i would know everything that was allowed/not allowed, and start making the kind of accusations that trinsic has made against me ... i have apologised for the meltdown i did, he hasn't apologised for his meltdown, let alone admitted he wos wrong,  for his ridiculous accusations that generated this pile of crap in the first place

the server can't handle all of us having our own guildhouses with teleporters

these were only purchased 2-3 weeks ago ..wosn't anything 'old' or grandfathered in ... with the sale going on right now anybody can buy them for half the amount i paid for them 2 weeks ago .. oh ..and you can do so safely without me making ridiculous accusations that you're in kahoots with the owners, or that you're hacking or exploiting :-)

didn't mean for it to sound ambiguous ..one i spoke with in vent, the other i spoke with in game

I really only said something because that Jerry's Kids thing really irritated me

perhaps you should scroll back and see that it wasn't me who posted the pic?

i'd still like to know where i'm being dishonest?

so far i'm getting a lot of shit thrown at me and yet when i ask anybody to specify the shit, it goes all quiet?

I'm kind of wondering who the other imaginary friend you are talking about was. No one else went up there in public chat or your guild chat the rest of the night that is associated with any of us. But I forgot... you are a completely honest adult

the other pm'd me in game, and i really appreciated them doing so, they divulged a litttle of the crap that trinsic was spewing down in the UO vent channel about me.

as for the being honest, i sincerely ask you to go through this whole thread, or indeed any of the other posts that i have made, and show me where i'm being dishonest

i addressed each of trinsic's accusations and explained them, wtf are you wanting???

i am being harsh on trinsic becos he has totally and baselesly accused me of hacking, exploiting, having some kind of deal or conspiracy going on ... it's totally out of order ... one of his posts sed ... that we were the first to start crying or running to the police or kon ..words to that effect ...the FACT is trinsic/peacemaker were the the ones who went and ran and cried about the LEGAL teleporters, they are the ones bent out of shape that we have a guildhouse in our player town, accused me of hacking with the resource box when i never knew anything about it etc etc and the proof they have .. they didn't have the common courtesy all the balls to talk to me at any time before this ballooned to where it is ..oh yeah ..if i deny the ridiculous accusations i'm a liar and that proves it ...c'mon, use a little common sense

trinsic wos invited and friended to the guild house so they could see for themselves ... unfortunately he wos being totally moronic even when things were explained to hinm, and i admittedly lost my cool and f-bombed him .. i have already apologised for that earlier in this thread ... i tried to talk to him later .. but if you were in the vent channel with us, you know exactly how he responded *sigh*

given that i don't really even know who they are, i have a complete lack of understanding why they are on this smear campaign

in order to dispell any of these stupid and ridiculous theories, i invite anybody from within the game to ask me to come over for an 'inspection' any time ...if i'm afk which is very often the case, ask one of our other guildies becos i can already see me being afk as an 'excuse to hide wot wos going on'

conversely if any of you want to meet with me in a public vent channel and discuss i'm more than happy to .. i suhggest we have a neutral observer/moderator to avoid the meltdowns lik eyesterday's from occurring

if this isn't enough, then i'm afraid you can subscribe to the conspiracy theories also, there's only so much i'm going to do when my sole purpose of being here is to have fun and to be of some kind of help to my guildmates, and by a smaller extension, to the shard itself

Thanks for the decision that was made by IECM to join TB and leave us in CoM

never mentioned which faction we'd be joining  :twisted:

Bulldawg.. I didn't "not like you" just gave you a hard time.... but now that you've quit behind some retarded shit I can't say that anymore.... Caue I can't stand a fucking quitter

Bull, sorry ta see ya go mate, and hope you win the battle with your health that you've been fighting for the last 2 years ... if and when ya come back, you know where to come  

I really hope this topic can beat Risk vs Reward but i think we're runnning out of steam.

we can always invite Trinsic back to make a guest appearance and put forward one of his other conspiracy theories ... his latest ones, that he was kind enough to share in front of others in vent, include 'p^m and iecm agreed in secret to join CoM together so that they could rule factions' ..erm ... einstein .. have you even read this thread???

the other one is, is that the rune and reference library that we have been working on in the background for quite a while is actually just a 'very recent and convenient way to cover up'  ... unfortunately he didn't elaborate just what it wos our dastardly scheme to launch a resource for the shard to use, is covering up ... inquiring minds want to know!