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Title: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: Venom on January 28, 2013, 01:00:48 PM
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Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: nosmont on January 28, 2013, 05:32:03 PM
you should get together with a guild and get a greater drag or something, usually a group goes into doom, or people with very powerful pets
Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: Saturn on January 28, 2013, 05:40:19 PM
5hours?! Thats determination! But, as a new player, you probably shouldn't be expecting much when you go to doom. The doom gauntlet offers some of the best gear on Pandora (you can check it out by going to the arti room, under pandora settlements). By no means should it be made easy. Some of the items you get there can be sold for 50$. So if it was made weaker and people can continuously chain the gauntlet, then the value of those items would rapidly drop.
If you really want to be doing it, join a party or guild that does it regularly. It will make it go much quicker.
Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: Johana on January 28, 2013, 06:01:08 PM
I don't know why it's called Doom anyway should be called disappointment.  That's the way I feel after doing 50 rounds and coming up with nothing.  Saturn is right it should be hard but a trade off in drop rate for less hit points on the dark father may balance out.  Can we get a GM to review my lower the drop rate for less hp idea?
Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: Saturn on January 28, 2013, 06:41:14 PM
I know luck plays into effect IF an arti drops (not to who, but if it all), being in a party decreases your chances, but yeah...They are still hard to come by, but I still believe they should be...With that being said, i will also point out I very rarely ever go to doom because my patience is incredibly limited for this sort of thing. I'd rather donate for the item cause i hate doing the gauntlet 1000 times over.
Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: Horns Nigel on January 28, 2013, 10:18:07 PM
Agreed, i just dont have the patience for it either and cringe when the guild wants to go there.....Nigel
Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: King Kong on January 30, 2013, 01:07:14 AM
Quote from: Johana on January 28, 2013, 06:01:08 PM
I don't know why it's called Doom anyway should be called disappointment.  That's the way I feel after doing 50 rounds and coming up with nothing.  Saturn is right it should be hard but a trade off in drop rate for less hit points on the dark father may balance out.  Can we get a GM to review my lower the drop rate for less hp idea?

We do review it... Doom is not going to fit every player. I watch people solo the dark father a lot with a great dragon & really know what they are doing.

A guild just demolishes DF.

5 hours that is determination....

I will look at lowering the HP tho... But doom has always had it's critics. Will never change.
Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: Jiggy on January 30, 2013, 08:56:02 AM
make doom were a DF spawn for every 2 pepole in doom and the same with each room.
Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: Venom on January 30, 2013, 03:52:57 PM
Unless you've tweaked drop rates, its 1-1000 for no DF in gauntlet, and 1-100 for dark father, so 200k hp is WAY high for those drop rates [in my opinion, its hard to really spend alot of time in doom, with those rates]
Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: Mercathane on January 30, 2013, 04:36:34 PM
I see a golden opportunity..adjust drop rights..I believe it's pvp area but if not make it so..then we can fight over it..
Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: Saturn on January 30, 2013, 06:42:58 PM
although i see your point, Doom has always been the place where team work is the best strategy. Making it pvp would just cause either guild/pvp dominance or one pvper with high ambitions to just become a pest.
Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: Mercathane on January 30, 2013, 07:15:10 PM
But guild wars would be awesome!!

We could be the pests!!
Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: Dwarvey on January 31, 2013, 07:59:40 AM
Quote from: Mercathane on January 30, 2013, 07:15:10 PM
But guild wars would be awesome!!

We could be the pests!!

But Guildwars is a different game  :P . I have to agree with Saturn. It's always been a pain in the butt, and required strangers to work together to get the arties.
Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: Mercathane on January 31, 2013, 09:50:14 AM
Guild...Wars..two words..no reference to a crappy game.

it being a PvP area has nothing to do with people working together.   Solo champs with us nightly..never an issue.  Its just another safe place right now.

Was just another idea..
Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: Thatperson on January 31, 2013, 10:25:54 AM
The thing with doom is some of the items are worth big bucks and its such a simple and farmable environment that drop rates need to be low. It takes 25-30 laps to get an arti and then there is always the chance that you will get lucky and get the 1 in 300 (or whatever it is) chance drop at anytime.
I know what johanna is saying about dissapointment, as i have never gotten anything i would keep but with so many arti's, all with human/garg/doom/war versions your chances are very slim and it is a bummer when you invest so much time and you get something rubbish, or even worse, doom rubbish.
id like to see doom arti's cease and only war from now on but im not asking for or expecting that, they are just booby prizes.
I disagree with making it fel though, its a place to band together to churn through as quickly as possible and i dont know how id feel if after spending a week rolling round and finally seeing that illusive new object in my pack only to have it taken from me the same moment. making the entrance dungeon fel might work ok, making the bone collecting a perilous endeavour, having to call friends to keep the pk at the ferryman at bay while you ring the bell, but not in the gauntlet.
Back to the OP.. 5 hours is hardcore hehe, sounds like you need someone to show you "the way" :) even with tamed pets it can be reasonably quick and painless. hp on most things are scaled up, it wont be long before your very powerful and you will love seeing those huge numbers tumble faster and faster :D
my tips... use disco, use honour, use pets, find a corner.
btw not bashin you merc..
Title: Re: Doom, in my opinion
Post by: Horns Nigel on January 31, 2013, 11:48:57 AM
I agree with Thatperson completely, really good points in your post.

I taks a lot of humor from my guildmates about my lack of enthusiasm to do doom anymore, but for me at least the time I am able to spend on the game each week is very valuable to me, so I am forced to pick and choose what I want to do.

Bedlam is outstanding, I love it!!!
If you could add some kind of deco items in doom that could be looted as in bedlam I think that would be a big plus, at least youi could walk away with somethin for your efforts.
I am like Thatperson in that I have also never got anything from doom worth saving, which is always on my mine when I think about te time it takes to go there and hunt.....Nigel
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