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#1
General Discussion / Re: Razor trouble...?
July 02, 2011, 09:45:36 PM
I also posted about this already - where 3 other players have also replied that they have experienced the same issue. It's clearly a widespread thing affecting many players, if not everyone as we all use razor to connect to pandora. The exact error message I get is as follows:

Event type: clr20r3
P1: razor.exe
P2: 1.0.13.1
P3: 4e0fc615
P4: razor
P5: 1.0.13.1
P6: 4e0fc615
P7: 9a5
P8: 26
P9: system.dllnotfoundexception

Do you get the same error message as well? If this is not affecting ALL players, perhaps we who are all having issues are all running the same OS with some dll file that does not exist in other versions of windows? I'm simply running Windows XP Home Edition.

Also - If this is only affecting some players, perhaps we can bypass razor's desire to update itself? Is there some way to turn off it's attempt to update, that way we can just do a fresh install and run it without updating?
#2
Ok - So I experienced a freeze and closed all of my clients I was running. I open razor like always, and this time, when it checks for updates, it actually finds an update and does update the thing, which it had never done before. It now immediately crashes if I try to open razor.

The error I get:

Event type: clr20r3
P1: razor.exe
P2: 1.0.13.1
P3: 4e0fc615
P4: razor
P5: 1.0.13.1
P6: 4e0fc615
P7: 9a5
P8: 26
P9: system.dllnotfoundexception

I've re-installed razor from a fresh download, and it trys to update the thing on that one as well, and if I try to cancel from the update, it just goes ahead and closes and doesn't load razor, does not load client. I have no idea why this is happening and I really want to not have my computer be screwed up and not able to login to pandora when there's this new content patch coming up. Would someone please if you know how to fix this let me know. Thank you...
#3
General Discussion / Re: daily client crash?
June 14, 2011, 10:46:10 AM
<----- Well I feel like an idiot for not patching up to 7.0.8.2 when I was supposed to. Going from 7.0.7.3 to the correct 7.0.8.2 seems to have completely fixed it. Didn't even have to re-install or anything. I wanted to give it a few days to make sure, but I have not 1 time gotten that dreaded "exception id/checksum" error since patching, and that was like 5 days ago. Also, I think I actually might know why it was failing due to not being fully patched, since Kronen asked what I might have done that coincided with the client crashing - I gave sets of "reading glasses of the trades" to all 3 of my scripters, and my guess is that with the 7.0.8.2 patch and all the reading glasses becoming imbuable, there was something basically not lining up with the code, so all 3 of them were running around with essentially broken glasses? That's my best guess and it's the only thing I can think of that was the same for all chars on all 3 clients, and at about the time that the crashes began, although I didn't at all realize it at the time that that could be causing it. In any case - it's working now and life is good! Thanks so much Kronen!
#4
General Discussion / Re: daily client crash?
June 08, 2011, 04:10:14 PM
Alrighty - Well me using 7.0.7.3 when I'm apparently supposed to now be using 7.0.8.2 seems like a likely enough culprit to me - Weird I don't receive a "your client is out of date, please update your client" when I log in, so I didn't think I had to do this. When we had updates previously, it always gave this message when it was necessary to update client...

As far as my computer goes - I ran the avg registry cleaner already some days ago, even went so far as to defrag my hard drive, and AVG Anti-virus, Malware-bytes, and Avast all seem to agree my computer is clean of any bugs.

When you say permanent damage to a component, what could this be that would cause this? I had a thought it could be my ram stick is partially or somehow burned out, causing the computer to have to compensate with the virtual paging file? Also I actually for sure have issues with my pc power supply - I live in FL and have had soo many storm/lightning related power outages my computer does this nifty thing where after power is lost, it literally does not turn on again - I have to physically open the case, unplug the power input from the mobo, and then while rapidly pressing the ON button plug the power input back into the mobo and I can get it to spring to life after a couple of tries usually... I do not like my p.o.s. computer at all, but I also don't especially want to build a new machine so I can play this game. Anyway, I don't see how the power supply weirdness would cause only 1 specific program to go wrong, and not implode the whole dang system.

I have not started using a new script, and for the past many many months it's been the spewy runebook mining script, and actually I did recently modify that script personally so that it would make use of the blessed everlasting pickaxes (the most minor of changes to get it to recognize that as an acceptable alternative to the shovel) - but it was crashing weeks prior to my going ahead and doing this. It crashed back when I was still tinkering shovels all the time like its still doing - and I actually figured it might be a problem with the tinkering aspect of the script, so I wanted to make it run with the everlasting pickaxes as a means of bypassing the crashing issue... that obviously was not the problem and did not solve it, but also it doesn't seem to have made it any worse at all, it's just crashing the same like it did before.

Seems like I need to go to 7.0.8.2 and see what happens? Will post later as to success/failure.
#5
General Discussion / daily client crash?
June 08, 2011, 02:55:18 PM
Ok, uh this is a long post, but I wanted to provide a lot of info, and if you can read through this and help me out at all it would make a world of difference - Ive got a pretty annoying problem here, and it's frustrating enough I have to just ask for help because I can't fix it on my own apparently - I get client crashes now every day while running 3 afk miners, and it seems completely random as far as where my afk mining scripters are located when I re-login - sometimes theyre in the wilderness, sometimes back at the home rune, but it happens all the time (and I have experienced this same crash while actually playing the game, on a client I was not scripting on, while 2 afk mining scripters worked in the background). It started doing this some weeks ago, and it's making it much much harder to maintain consistent scripting when the clients are crashing all the time and I constantly have to re-set them. This is clearly affecting me, and not everyone else, since I re-login and everyone is still there so it's nothing to do with the server going down, I'm pretty sure it's a problem on my end of things. The error I get:

Client Version: 7.0.7.3

Exception ID: 3221225477

Checksum: 1551725400

I don't know what this error is trying to tell me, does anyone know what this means?

Ive switched around all sorts of things in-game trying to get it to stop doing this. Changed runebooks, moved from my mining pad to a castle and tried that, built a 2nd castle to script out of in case there was some issue with the first one (an elemental spawn nearby, sometimes pops up harmless elementals inside the castle walls - weird right?) - but I don't think it's the result of where in-game I'm scripting from or any in-game factors, or even if I am scripting for that matter since I had it crash when I wasn't doing that. I re-installed Razor so there's default settings (I did some internet searching on this error code, and some pages seemed to indicate it was a corrupted razor installation? but the info out there is sparse at best about these error codes - and re-installing Razor did not fix it).

If I go to sleep running 3 scripters and no other programs, and I don't wake up until maybe 8 hours later, there's a very good chance that all 3 clients will have crashed in that amount of time but other days I'll get 24hrs or more out of them no crashes even if I'm on all day/night doing other stuff on my computer, so I'm just totally lost as to why this is happening when it does - it crashes if I'm sleeping afk, and it also stays stable for that amount of time, it crashes if I'm using my computer running other programs, and it will also stay stable running other programs - so to me, it seems to have no rhyme or reason to it whatsoever.

Also, if this makes a difference, my computer is not very impressive - cable internet, 6yr old Compaq with a 2.2 Ghz single core, 512K ram, onboard video - it seems to barely want to run 3 clients in the first place (pegging cpu usage bouncing up to 100% - and I've been getting "Virtual Memory on my computer is running out and windows wants to increase the paging file size" error as well - it has always been hard on cpu, but I did not get the Virtual Memory error before). If I open a 4th client, it automatically crashes one of them within a very short amount of time, nevermind a 5th one, so Ive never been able to run 4 or 5 clients - it seems obvious this is simply the result of my computer not being able to handle running this many clients simultaneously, and I'm ok with this but it used to run 3 without any issues at all for months and months, and I'd like to continue doing that. Aaaaand, if these daily crashes were the result of my computer being in-capable of handling this much gaming multitasking, I should only experience 1 client crash, while the other 2 continue to run without issue, as computer resources are obviously freed up after 1 goes down...right? I've witnessed it crash and it does it 1 client crash at a time, not all 3 at once. So why in the world would all 3 eventually crash when given enough random amount of time?

Are any of you other players able to run 5 clients simultaneously - if so, what sort of computer are you rocking, and what sort of internet connection? Do I just need a better computer in order to play this game and not have it crash on me? In other words, is my computer just basically running out of it's useful lifespan and it's just begun showing this slow death process with what seems like more and more frequent client crashes or is there something specific software-wise I can do to fix this problem that has popped up? It did not do this at all no crashes maybe a month ago, and I find it hard to accept that my computer is just falling apart on me like this - for all other intents and purposes my computer works perfectly fine no crashes no freezes no screwy errors. The one thing I have not tried, and I've been waiting for the new update to come out, is to re-install the client from scratch and patch up fully - and I'll definitely try this when it's time, but if that doesn't fix it, I'm out of ideas, not to mention I don't even know if re-installing the client would fix the underlying cause anyway. Help please.
#6
I'm terribly sorry I ruffled your feathers, but were you under the impression that UO is NOT a competitive game? Also, maybe you mis-understood me and is why you're referring to actions I've never done - I'm not one of the godly PKers who have been here since the dawn of time, in fact I had never actually played UO before coming to Pandora a few months ago, I'm just a quick study, and I have absolutely zero interest in popping weak newbies without cause or remorse, that crap can't possibly be very fun or fulfilling - Ive tried with my limited ability and knowledge to help newer players - what I would like to do, some day in the far far future is be able to fight against, say, anyone in the top 10, and win maybe 1 out 100 duels against them by being good enough to not die immediately and get a little bit lucky and actually get in a winning shot every once in a great while, or maybe actually venture into the very profitable pvp dungeons I'd very much like to go fighting in, and be strong enough to get out alive sometimes. So I'm not sure if you really are wrapping your head around just how competitive this game in fact is. True, you could spend your time deco-ing your house to a super duper level of fancy, cooking and taste identifying, wear a different colored robe for each day of the week, maybe using "thou art"s and "come hither"s when you talk to others, but for all the tons and tons of things that aren't competitive that are possible to do in the game, you cannot deny that competition in the form of PVP combat is at the very core what UO is great for and why most players play this game. You, I, and most other players, are playing catch-up to the kings, but you seem to want to ignore that and never have a chance, which is fine of course, I mean having fun is the goal I agree and if you can have fun doing that then more power to you, as for me I'd have a lot more fun if I were at least capable of standing up and fighting so I'll go ahead and keep my eye on the prize.
#7
I know this has already been voiced sortof, but yeah, if you ever, and I mean ever, want to play at a remotely competitive level against the PKers who have got incredible knowledge, experience, and some have been around from over a year ago when the shard began (most all have played UO for years on other shards) - then you need to make yourself a good 200-300 million gold (or donate a few hundred real world dollars!) and dump a good chunk of that into imbuing, most of the rest into 120 scrolls, and assorted rare clothing. Every day, every hour, every minute not spent making bank is time spent not achieving this very difficult goal, which for most players macroing afk will take maybe a year or so. Yes a year of afk macroing. Year with a capital Y. So I'd just like to say, yes, I am all for OTHER people doing roleplaying, and I fully support your efforts to bring this great idea to struggling players, as it basically is just shooting yourself in the foot and completely wasting your time while everyone else gets better and richer non-stop (unless of course, insane and massive changes were implemented to reward this sort of jackassery - and I very much doubt significant enough changes will be made to shift the balance of the game completely in order to make this activity financially rewarding). If you want to fight, and you want to win, ever, this sort of thing is probably not a good use of your time, which is precisely why most players do not care about role-playing. "Play to Win" OR "Play to Play".