When i started playing here i was excited to know that the treasures of tokuno was active on this shard... when i played on the pay shards i never had as much fun as i did when this event ran, and was very sad to see it go...
So i have been slowly working my taming up to to go out and enjoy it all over again... to my dismay.. i learn today you can only get tok arties in the dungeons and they are no longer safe from PKs... I am not and never will be a PVPr...
Kons Post Says It All: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6 (http://www.pandorauo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6)
Trammel
Trammel
Ter Mur
Tokuno
Felucca
Felucca
Malas
Ilishinar
3 Felucca, 3 Trammel, Balance.
Well its now more like... 3 1/2 Fel 2 1/2 Tram...
In my opinion, if the dungeons in a PVE area (wich are now pvp) are the only place to get arities, then arties should drop everywhere in tokono... The better drops will always be in the dungeons... but you can still get them outside...
Another quote from Kons: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6 (http://www.pandorauo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6)
But know this -- Felucca = Greater Risk = Greater Rewards
In the dungeon -- Felucca = Greater Risk = Greater Rewards
outside the dungeon -- Less risk.. less drop rate... because the mobs outside the dungeon by defalt have a less chance to drop arties by default...
This server seems to be swaying more to teh pvp'rs than anything, and thats fine if the bulk of people want that... but unfortunatly if this is the case then i guess im going to have to move on...
I would like to hear other peoples opinion on this.. cuse this is a fun shard.. but... people who dont like pvp arent going to like it here much...
( on another note PvE players cant even goto Ish and grind.. w/o being pk'd... so if i want arties i am forced to PvP... or do boring doom )
err i meant in my last post ... i cant even do boring doom :)
Honestly, Trammel should be the only land with "Trammel" rule-set.
Seeing how flooded tokuno artis are, its the right move. Just add some risk in there. This eliminates AFK tokuno-whoring. Saying "all guard" and going to bed doesn't add much excitement to anything.
I don't know any PvPr that can take down a greater dragon... If you and your pet/pets were casting spells on someone... Come on... That's easy.
IMO
its like those 'tots' were not balanced, now that few peoples have tons of them, make sure the rest of the noob dont get a chance to aquired one, or at least have a hard time getting one.
seem to me its the same thing all over the place, experienced players gather HUGE fortune in items, until the point it unbalance the shard, then something happen to make sure others will works 10X harder to get just one good arti.
personaly I dont care to work harder for the same item, as long that I dont get kill over and over by the same 4-5 guys who just want to have a monopoly over these tots. When someone become powerfull enough, the only thing he will focus on is to keep his spot in the food chain.
(sorry for my bad english and ty for reading)
Gargore
Just stopping in to say I agree with the first two posters. After the change, my hunt of kaze kimono just doesn't have the rewards it used to. I know I can hunt in tur mur for arties still, but now I wonder when that might be switched the same way Ltots have been.
Thanks for reading my jumbled thoughts...
My mistake, I mean I agree with gargore and Omally ;P
Whiners whining about not being able to farm artifacts anymore.
QuoteWhiners whining about not being able to farm artifacts anymore.
I didnt farm anything yet, im new.
also, dont call name on me like that, im just giving my opinion. ty
what the? i agree with ether? hmmm.
Thing is guys, it may not have been you personally who were farming tots, but when tots were gainable ALL over tokuno people could get 10 tots in 10 mins. havent you noticed incredibly powerful artifacts like luck mempo, swords of prosperity, rbc and more on almost every char in insula?
As it is, people have horded greater tots for a while now and there will be many for sale now, this was obviously done to stop the shard being bombarded with tots, which it was + it gives opportunities for pvpers now to get some practice. And seeing as the shard has been growing and settling in since it was started, there has been PLENTY of opportunities for pvmers, and there still is.
If you dont like the new tot sytem, but still want to hunt for tots i have a few tips for you guys:
1) yomutsu mines are harder than dojo, but pkers tend to go there less often because the dojo is more popular so its probably safer.
2) Hunt in groups, if you are in a group of 3 and are attacked, ATTACK BACK! even 3 noobs vs 1 pro will be better than running and getting picked off. So attack back and make your way back up to the lands of tokuno where you will be safe.
3) If you use pets and you are attacked by a pker, type "all guard". Your pet should then attack your attacker and give you a chance to hide, escape or even gank the pker.
4) If hunting in the dojo, run through the entire 1st level and start hunting on the 2nd level. Pkers will run in the entrance of level 1 and if they see monsters everywhere and no corpses, they will probably think there is no1 in there and leave.
5) If attacked run into a high populated monster area, if you die, at least your attacker will have a hard time looting your corpse with a room full of fan dancers surrounding it.
Tots and greater tots will now go up in price, because they are harder to get. So tot hunting will become a good way of making an income. Kons changes are always for the best, you just need to wait, watch and see :)
Quotetot hunting will become a good way of making an income
ok dont give me that, sure its good that peoples cant farm 25 tots a day, but dont even try to tell me its better to farm them now than before...
the way i see this half the problem was solve, tots cannot be exploited anymore and its good, but there is still tons of tots around, stacked in house and bank, obtain with little to no effort. Which leave a bad taste for the new comers. thats all.
Quotebut there is still tons of tots around, stacked in house and bank, obtain with little to no effort.
Then what you're saying is: remove all tots and make veterans have to start over?
Sorry, but i disagree (I know I'm more of a vet than a new guy here), there's nothing to be done aobut the existing ToTs...
Read Jerry's post, use these advices to get tots safely...
na - give it awhile it will level out -- plus I made greater tots random -- give it time my good man -
Quotena - give it awhile it will level out -- plus I made greater tots random -- give it time my good man -
Can you clarify what you mean by making greater tots "random," please?
you get 10 lesser tots (lesser artifacts) and you can turn them into the NPC in the Tokuno town.
Now instead of you being able to select and choose which one you want out of the 10 options it gives you, instead you get one of the greater ones randomly in your pack.
(because some greater artifacts have much more use than others)
so therefore it makes the lesser tots worth more, because everyone will not be running around in a Rune Beetle Caraprice, because it is a chance to get that, not a guarantee.
QuoteNow instead of you being able to select and choose which one you want out of the 10 options it gives you, instead you get one of the greater ones randomly in your pack.
Ah, OK. That's how it's worked since I've been here, so I was confused by what "changed" meant. Got it now, thanks.
Not really "Fair" though, is it?
its "fair" now..
give it a while and it will all even out like he said.
I agree, the devs have fairness at heart.
Everybodys gonna turn in their lesser tots to try to get the most useful Gtots now.
sooo the number of lesser tots will decrease slowly but surely.