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L-ToT drop rates since the "fix"

Started by orange_peel, June 08, 2010, 02:35:59 PM

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orange_peel

I'm not coming here to complain, I'm coming here to ask around to gather some info before I start complaining... :lol:

So my question is, have you gottten any l-ToTs since the change? I've seen in [c a few times that drop rates have slowed, but I can't seem to find anyone who has found an artifact since the change.

Anyway, since the change last month where lesser Treasures of Tokuno now only drop within the Tokuno dungeons (Dojo & Mines), I have yet to receive a single L-ToT. Now, this could simply be a streak of bad luck, but I have farmed over 500k gold in that time from monsters and I find it extremely hard to believe that I can go from earning 15-20 L-ToTs a day to zero literally overnight.

Kon or Azar, if one of you happen to read this, could you possibly check to verify that everything is as it should be within the code. I know you both work very hard at keeping the shard running at its most squeaky-clean state, but I'm beginning to think that maybe a setting was inadvertently switched off while the intended changes were being made.

Preston

#1
I agree, I spend 3-4 hours at a time in the Dojo about 2-3 times a week, and havent found a single ToT. With a 1200 luck suit. I agree i think it would be a great idea to check the coding  :)

King Kong

#2
Don't bother getting tots right now.

We're balancing out the economy, there is a flood of them.

Don't waste your time in Dojo & Mines until further notice, will be cranked up to normal soon.

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orange_peel

#3
OK thanks for the clarification, Kon.

GEMAN104

#4
In case I want to go try to get some though.. Are they active?

Ether

#5
I guess now you guys know why ToT is supposed to be a temporary thing.

orange_peel

#6
Or, why as was suggested in the other thread, it needs to be tweaked slightly. I think limiting drops to the dungeons was a step in the right direction. Perhaps increasing the amount needed to turn in or tweaking the drop rate (rather than periodically disabling it) is the way to go.

Gizmo

#7
The problem with the standard RunUO ToT system is that it is easily beaten by your EasyUO or even Razor user. Alls you have to do is kill a single target that has a fame value thats greater then zero. Breakdown of the ToT system.


You kill a creature, if its fame is greater then zero. Then take the luck bonus of the killer, and add it to the creatures fame value basically. Then add that value to the players ToTPoints. As your points get greater, your chances become greater of getting a item off a kill. If you get a ToT, then reset the ToTPoints. Now anybody who has a brain knows, set up a macro somewhere, to kill anything that has a fame value greater then zero. Some non Agroing animals have a fame value. Sure its not much, but a chance is a chance, and the chances get better and better. You could set yourself up anywhere. The only exceptions is not in a house/or on a boat. If you are in both of these areas, you acquire no points for a kill, thus get no chance of a ToT to appear.

So what do you do? Sure you have people who hunt without macroing. But others who dont follow rules, will find every way to exploit the system best they can. The way the system is now, its all about you kill, kill, kill, kill, kill. the way most things are. There can be many solutions to this issue. All in which will seem unfair and make people complain. Typical solutions are as follows....
  • Decrease the points you get per kill.
  • Cap the amount of points you can earn per 12 hour period
  • Make Friday ToT grinding day from midnight to midnight (24 hours)
  • Turn tot grinding on at random, for x amount of random minutes (with a display that players can check)

There are many more ways then this, but these tend to be the most used. But im sure they will come up with something.

Aaliah

#8
QuoteSo what do you do? Sure you have people who hunt without macroing. But others who dont follow rules, will find every way to exploit the system best they can. The way the system is now, its all about you kill, kill, kill, kill, kill. the way most things are. There can be many solutions to this issue. All in which will seem unfair and make people complain. Typical solutions are as follows....

Just try and do that in the fan dancer's dojo or yomotsu mines (only places where ToTs will drop, and also Fel ruleset areas in tokuno) and you'll find yourself dead, with no tots. I can assure you that.
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Gizmo

#9
Quoteby Aaliah ยป Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:25 am

So what do you do? Sure you have people who hunt without macroing. But others who dont follow rules, will find every way to exploit the system best they can. The way the system is now, its all about you kill, kill, kill, kill, kill. the way most things are. There can be many solutions to this issue. All in which will seem unfair and make people complain. Typical solutions are as follows....


Just try and do that in the fan dancer's dojo or yomotsu mines (only places where ToTs will drop, and also Fel ruleset areas in tokuno) and you'll find yourself dead, with no tots. I can assure you that.

My bad, the basic code that comes distro allows you to get tots as long as your in any Tokuno Area. I was unaware they made it for the dungeons only. Thanks for the heads up.

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