Updated PCoin room prices etc.

[outluke]

Greetings!

I'm frankly new to the shard (only 16 days) and i loove the diversity it offers.
I quite enjoy no skillcap, and the fact that i can make my toon a master of all trades. I've made a decent PvM character and started grinding in order to obtain gear to build my pvp suit. But the happy times cannot last forever....
I understand that some changes and tweaks need to be made in order to balance the economy, however imho the changes need to be imoplemented cautiously - not to discourage the new player base. I'm gonna share a couple of my oppinions which are an outcome of my Pandora gameplay experience, specifficaly 2 issues:
1. Treasures of Tokuno - they used to be obtainable at whole Tokuno landmass - no longer - you can only get them in 2 location, at intervals (except for tuesdays...). Result - old players have banks loaded with ToTs, while newbs need to grind the same boring locations frequently getting PK'd.
2. PCoin room price changes - this is outrageus. Not only old players have already all their luck suits boosted by +200 luck deeds, not only have they already bought blesses reg bags and resource boxes - but above all most coin mob spots have been marked and are camped 24/7 making it insanely hard for new players to obtain pcoins in the first place. What's more - now the prices have been doubled which makes it even more discouraging. I understand it's the move to boost the $ shop sales...

Don't take it as a rant. I'm not raging - just sharing my point of view. Anyway my personal Pandora experience has been killed by the changes.

[Domos]

While I agree with everything you said, look at it from the shard staff angle, they had to fix the tot situation somehow but how? You could decrease the drop rate but having a general (kill anything) drop like the tots means it will still get farmed and you will still be flooded just slower, decrease it more and nobody is getting any tots at all. They did the best fix they got on this 1, the drop rate is not terrible but the timing doesnt allowe continuous farming. and yeah, new players have it much tougher then those before but what else can be done right? Although I would have to say that having to hunt in particular areas for the drops invites constant pking, it seems like it would be better to have shorter tot "events" but have them continent wide (hunt anywhere)...
 As far as coins go, it would be nice to be able to trade gold for pan coins, that way even if you cant get the spawns you could still make descent numbers of coins. Just an idea.

[Arminius]

what the heck!?
i just checked the coin room after i read this post.... c'mon - serious?
2,6k for the reag bag? 2,5k for spell channeling deed... luck deed 1,7k... this makes me extremely sad.
I didnt like the ToT-drop thing too - but i can live with it... but THIS!? cmon... plz change the prices back to what they used to.
It already was fricking expensive but now it's just.... can't even find words for it.
Please Kon & Gizmo - change the prices back to what they were.

[Lotus]

Tricky situation all around.  For the most part I also agree with the OP.  That being said all games in existence give advantage to the vets, this is no exception.  P-coin collection/purchases is a reward for allegiance to the shard, and the items gained through this method should take a significant amount of time.  None of the items in the P-coin room are necessary for the majority of game play.

I can see how anyone could think the opposite, but in reality it's probably best if artifact quality items remain rare, not extremely rare, but rare.  This is a catalyst for co-op play.  Can't survive the dojo solo?  Bring a group.  PKers are opportunistic predators, and will probably leave a group alone.

[Deadmau5]

After spending thousands and I mean thousands of pandora coins on +200 luck deeds I am going to warn that luck adds very little to Doom chances.  With 0 luck you have a 1.5% chance of getting an artifact from the dark father.  With 2400 luck I have a 2% chance of getting an artifact.  For the lesser doom mobs its .75% chance and for me is only 1%.  Also the upgraded loot on mobs is hardly if at all noticeable.  I have done quite a few peerless's solo and all I have ever walked away from these peerless's with is reagents.  Never looted a single item work taking even with 2400 luck.

[Dleatherus]

i agree with deadmaus on this one ... i also have a high luck suit that i spent a LOT of coins on, it increases drops, but sometimes ya wonder if it's working :-)

if you make coins available for gold, then the vets who have the most gold are again at an advantage

the best way is to get more coins ... i keep an eye on our voting standings on the five different shards we use with the voting stones, just out of curiosity and a desire to see the shard grow ... we have at best 25% of the shard voting daily (and it's probably way lower given that we have had a max of 270 folks on)

that's at least 1000 coins daily from the non voters that would get injected into the economy ... might not sound like a lot, but remember even the ocean is made up of droplets

if we encourage {not spam!) folks to vote, ya might find we get ta buy/save coins quicker :-)

[Belegerandh]

lol I do have to say to does look like they want to put the pvm'ers in the opportunity of the pk'ers .. kinda like paying them to be placed into Pandora's/Pulp Fiction's 'DN' Storage.

Not sure I care but it's how it's always looked to me lol

'DN' Storage Protector: Come inside my storage room.
PVM'er: Why?
'DN' Storage Protector: I have arties inside.
PVM'er: But I'll get ganked by reds.
'DN' Storage Protector: That's just so they won't leave the shard.
PVM'er: *silence*
'DN' Storage Protector: You're contributing in this way.
PVM'er: ummm ..
PVM'er *makes an alt they don't care about aka farmer*

[Dleatherus]

lol bel ... erm ... i'm a bit slow today ..not quite getting yer post ... mebbe it's the donkey ears growing out the sides of me head?

[Bobby Digital-]

i could be wrong but i think he's implying that the tokuno mines/dojo is set for pkers to farm trammies that want tots somehow purposely?

No accusations or implications there, just that's what I think he's saying

[Belegerandh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-7f7vVCqvI

[Belegerandh]

Nah not sayin' it's doing anything but contributing. A lot of these dudes don't like getting killed so what are they going to do? Make a trash character so their titles don't get jacked and so they don't have to care as much if they die.

H*ll, I don't care who gets killed because I don't really PVP or PVP. I've made it pretty clear I sell tamed creatures and runebooks/sets so this is an objective view. I go to the fel ruleset facets all the time and ganks I those places make me $$$ because I mark them so people don't have to walk that 'mile' Cool, kill 'em. lol

But objectively, ya, I know PVM'ers and that's what a lot would do. What's important to a PVP'er isn't important to the PVM'er and vise versa; totally different motivations, usually, and interests. Just sayin' changing stuff this way isn't always going to help because the sh*t's gotta be policed if you can't trust folks. Looks like they're letting the reds do it for them and something to do to boot.

[Belegerandh]

If you can read past my typo's lol There's a purple dot on my wall with a green halo and if I look at it it starts crawling down the wall. If I blink it's back where it was again. Joke!

On some prescribed steroids and pain meds with an infection shot for some torn muscles. Messin' me up this week.

[Kanu Unchou]

more (double) coins are needed to buy the same stuff.
with the influx of coins unchanged, this is a deflation. you get double the gold worth for your clicking time on the voting stones, but getting something from the coin room from just clicking vote stones is now completely impossible. you'll have to click every fricken day for quite some time for even the cheapest items.

i think only very few people will buy via pcoins in the future, so actually, the price on pcoins may go up a bit, because supply has literally been halved. then again, with fewer buyers, demand also lowers alot. and i think the lesser demand outshines the lower supply by a large amount.

[Belegerandh]

Honestly, how much of that stuff does any of us -need-? I'm still having a lot of fun without any of it.

[Kanu Unchou]

That's exactly the point I was trying to make. Makes clicking for pcoins less attractive IMO.