Not [young] anymore.. what now?

[skaven]

First thing, i have returned to UO from a 8-year leave, but i have read about most of the news introduced. I live in Italy so my English could be sloppy, bear with me

Ok so i enjoyed bringing most of the skill at 100, scripting and fighting "little" mobs. I welcomed the new "young player suit" that has better resistances and is 100% LRC.

I went to great length Gming Blacksmith to have some options in crafting me something.

But, right now, i am abased. I don't know what can i do alone here in Pandora.
I have tried going to the standard dungeons, and apart from a slight incident in Destard (A greater dragon at the entrance... ooooh cmon!), i went in the first levels without trouble (a little trouble with the caster full despise), but with no good loot, money or pieces for a better suit. Money in particular is nerfed at the point of being useless to hunt for it. I only get decent money from paragons in Ilshenar, and finding non-caster ones is really difficult, so i had to resort to the tamer route and the good newbie pet in glass city.

But till now, all the thing i have have been "gifted" to me by the game: the suit, the money (via the voting stone), the pet.

I thought in starting with a sampire build, but i found a solid wall:

1) Vampiric Embrace is nerfed, i don't know what the penalty to fire res is, but i cannot move it from the minimum no matter what i wear! And most casters mob cast fire spells...  
2) I cannot find the "starting" artifacts (i.e.: Soulseeker) in any vendor i went on, and i don't know if there is a named monster or a miniboss feaseble for my "starting" suit and skills  :?
3) Even Power Scrolls are very rare (Sword, Parry, and combat ones at least) and i cannot find them on the vendor or if there are some they are ridiculosly priced.  :shock:

So i went back to the tamer route: but, while easier, i suspect that i will hit a wall again because i cannot find an Animal Taming PS... so i won't have the Cu Sidhe or Greater Dragon for a long time..

Can you give me some suggestion in what *should* i do alone, and in what order? And if Tamer is what i should do, what pet should i seek and in what order?

Sorry for the newbie question, but, as i said before, i am really struggling in everything i try and have not a clue in what order to set my goals.

Thanks for any help you will give,
Fabsm

[Casho]

I`m from germany, so don`t worry about your english. I will not notice if your english is sloppy or something else

First of all you should choose one play style. (Tamer, Sampire, Caster, Archer, ...) Later you will be able to switch but at first you will need a better gear.

Tamer should be easy to start with.
Greater Dragon is about 84.7 skill only.
Cu Sidhe is very rare (respawn about once a week, as I know)
I believe White Wyrm can be stronger/better then normal, maybe stronger/better then Greater Dragon. But I`m not a tamer, so I don`t know exactly.

I almost start as Archer or Sampire. Last one is a bit harder because melees are heavily dependent on their armor. So it is not a good choice to start with.

When you know which style you want to play, get the needed Power scrolls or at least all you can get for. (105, 110 and a few 115 (depends on your style and to your bank balance))

Next should be a armor with maxed resistances and maybe a better weapon.
If you can`t find any send me a PM here or at Keshan in game and tell me what weapon/armor your are looking for. I could try to get a 100% LRC with maxed resis and some other properties depended on what your going to play and looking for (mana, stamina, mana reg etc etc.).

Also rise your stats (str,dex int) as much as you can. (With Jewels and Tali)

Of course you will not be able to get all right now or in only a few days.
You should try to improve your skills and your gear step by step. Make some money and check the vendors from time to time.
You could also join the IRC. There is a trade chanel...

There are also some interesting threads in the forums if you don`t know how to make money.

1) Vampiric Embrace is nerfed, i don't know what the penalty to fire res is, but i cannot move it from the minimum no matter what i wear! And most casters mob cast fire spells...
penalty is -65 fire res.
I don´t know how much your char is trained so far, but with 100 at Resisting Spells you will get 40 to all resis. Not perfect but more then nothing

2) I cannot find the "starting" artifacts (i.e.: Soulseeker) in any vendor i went on, and i don't know if there is a named monster or a miniboss feaseble for my "starting" suit and skills :?
I don`t think you will need a special arti to start your sampire.
I do not have any artis but with a little support of my x-bow (I can not beat 5 mobs at once) I am able to solo a lvl 6 T-Map with my sampire.

3) Even Power Scrolls are very rare (Sword, Parry, and combat ones at least) and i cannot find them on the vendor or if there are some they are ridiculosly priced. :shock:
Because of no skill cap nearly everyone will need each PS. If you don`t want to do champs for your PS, you will have to pay the prices or stay without the PS.
It is realy easy to make some money on Pandora. I just buy the PS.

[skaven]

First of all you should choose one play style. (Tamer, Sampire, Caster, Archer, ...) Later you will be able to switch but at first you will need a better gear.

I would have liked a melee Sampire, but i think i'll get better gear before starting.

Tamer should be easy to start with.
Greater Dragon is about 84.7 skill only.

Stratics says 104.7, is there something different here in Pandora?

I almost start as Archer or Sampire. Last one is a bit harder because melees are heavily dependent on their armor. So it is not a good choice to start with.

Well, that's the exact problem i have. No gear = no sampire.

Next should be a armor with maxed resistances and maybe a better weapon.
If you can`t find any send me a PM here or at Keshan in game and tell me what weapon/armor your are looking for. I could try to get a 100% LRC with maxed resis and some other properties depended on what your going to play and looking for (mana, stamina, mana reg etc etc.).

I have no trouble with the maxed resistance, thanks to the Glass Armor, Bracelet of Blessings and good Jewelry. What i need is a good weapon, but i couldn't find a good melee/whirlwind capable area attack weapon..

1) Vampiric Embrace is nerfed, i don't know what the penalty to fire res is, but i cannot move it from the minimum no matter what i wear! And most casters mob cast fire spells...
penalty is -65 fire res.
I don´t know how much your char is trained so far, but with 100 at Resisting Spells you will get 40 to all resis. Not perfect but more then nothing

-65 UGH!
So... should i try and get a 135 fire res suit, or forget about it and stay with my 40? (i have 100 resisting spells)

2) I cannot find the "starting" artifacts (i.e.: Soulseeker) in any vendor i went on, and i don't know if there is a named monster or a miniboss feaseble for my "starting" suit and skills :?
I don`t think you will need a special arti to start your sampire.
I do not have any artis but with a little support of my x-bow (I can not beat 5 mobs at once) I am able to solo a lvl 6 T-Map with my sampire.

Could you elucubrate on a ranged Sampire? I thought that was not possible because of Honor requirements, and Life Leech only on melee?!?

For the PS, i will endure my bank loss with good grace...

Thanks for all the answers, hope to see you in game.

Fabsm

[Casho]

First of all you should choose one play style. (Tamer, Sampire, Caster, Archer, ...) Later you will be able to switch but at first you will need a better gear.

I would have liked a melee Sampire, but i think i'll get better gear before starting.

I think so too.
You could start as an Archer.
You would only need 1 other skill (archery)
Stats are the same (max dex / stamina)
I personaly prefer x-bows. 30-35 SSI and a bit mana leech should be enough at the beginning.

Tamer should be easy to start with.
Greater Dragon is about 84.7 skill only.

Stratics says 104.7, is there something different here in Pandora?

Yes, Pandora is different
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8074&p=16275&hilit=greater+dragon#p16275
-> Tweaks

I almost start as Archer or Sampire. Last one is a bit harder because melees are heavily dependent on their armor. So it is not a good choice to start with.

Well, that's the exact problem i have. No gear = no sampire.

Next should be a armor with maxed resistances and maybe a better weapon.
If you can`t find any send me a PM here or at Keshan in game and tell me what weapon/armor your are looking for. I could try to get a 100% LRC with maxed resis and some other properties depended on what your going to play and looking for (mana, stamina, mana reg etc etc.).

I have no trouble with the maxed resistance, thanks to the Glass Armor, Bracelet of Blessings and good Jewelry. What i need is a good weapon, but i couldn't find a good melee/whirlwind capable area attack weapon..

As I said, tell me what you are looking for. I just need some data

1) Vampiric Embrace is nerfed, i don't know what the penalty to fire res is, but i cannot move it from the minimum no matter what i wear! And most casters mob cast fire spells...
penalty is -65 fire res.
I don´t know how much your char is trained so far, but with 100 at Resisting Spells you will get 40 to all resis. Not perfect but more then nothing

-65 UGH!
So... should i try and get a 135 fire res suit, or forget about it and stay with my 40? (i have 100 resisting spells)

The lower runic tools on Pandora are boosted to let runic armor be still interesting beside imbuing. Means it is much easier to get a high resi armor out of Dull Copper, Shadow and Copper runic Hammers and also out of runic kits. That is why on Pandora the penalty is higher then normal.
So yes of course you should try to get all resis up to max. If you are doing right you will only need one armor. Regardless if you are melee, tamer, ranged, magican or anything else.

2) I cannot find the "starting" artifacts (i.e.: Soulseeker) in any vendor i went on, and i don't know if there is a named monster or a miniboss feaseble for my "starting" suit and skills :?
I don`t think you will need a special arti to start your sampire.
I do not have any artis but with a little support of my x-bow (I can not beat 5 mobs at once) I am able to solo a lvl 6 T-Map with my sampire.

Could you elucubrate on a ranged Sampire? I thought that was not possible because of Honor requirements, and Life Leech only on melee?!?

Ranged is not a true Sampire anymore, of course.
I only told you about the x-bow to explain that I can not kill a bulk of Ancient Wyrms, Balrons etc. with melee but still each single mob as a sampire without any artis.

For the PS, i will endure my bank loss with good grace...

Thanks for all the answers, hope to see you in game.

Fabsm

[King Kong]

This post reminding me to turn gold amount drops back up.

All gold, on every facet, every monster, will be almost doubled now.


Thank you.

[DamJ.NeT]

Hi !

Concerning pets, you should go for the nightmare/whitewyrm combo. They're easy to tame/buy. Bond them, you'll be able to hunt a lot of mobs with that.

Or a very very good spell is Animated weapon, but I can't remember the skill you need. They have tons of HP and only take 1 slot. They can be dispelled, but if you summon 4 of them, you'll have time to recast the dead ones. they dont do dmg tho, but they'll tank better than pets.

[skaven]

Hi !

Concerning pets, you should go for the nightmare/whitewyrm combo. They're easy to tame/buy. Bond them, you'll be able to hunt a lot of mobs with that.

Or a very very good spell is Animated weapon, but I can't remember the skill you need. They have tons of HP and only take 1 slot. They can be dispelled, but if you summon 4 of them, you'll have time to recast the dead ones. they dont do dmg tho, but they'll tank better than pets.

I will certainly try the Animated Weapon (Mysticism). Regarding the pets... i have really trouble in taming hostile pets so for now i resort to buying them around

Found good prices for Greater Dragons and really thinking about getting one and trying the mini-champ spawn.

Can you suggest an order in which these mobs and spawn should be done solo, if at all?

- Wyvern (Renowned)
- Medusa
- Miasma
- DreadThorn
- Swoop
- Barracoon the Piper
- Other Champs spawn
- Other mini-champs spawn
- Doom
- Bedlam
- ToT Dungeons-events (ankh, yomotsu, ecc.)

Thanks for the answers!

[Jupiter]

- The mines are super easy with any pet. Can get lesser ToTs to trade it
- Swoop is easy if you have a pet to tank him (weak agaisnst energy)
- Mini champs aren't always the easiest to solo, it consider guilding up or pacing yourself through them. The many issue isnt what the spawn is, but the fact that they spawn in numbers.
- Miasma got a buff, hes kinda badass now, i have difficulty solo him, so be cautious, he can move a same speed as you when mounted and inflicts poison.
- Baracoon can be done solo, takes a lil time, and watch out for the silver serpents as they can over power you when in high numbers and also inflict poison. But the big issue with this guy is that you will be in fel zones and they get raided more often than not
- Medusa has got alot of hit points, but can easily be done with a small group of melee characters cross healing. You can't use pets on her cause she will clone them which will screw everything up if you use em.
- Doom is always fun, theres groups that will regulary take people with them, check IRC cause they shout out when there going. You can solo all the champs there except Dark Fathers. He's badass. When fighting him he will throw unholy bones at you that will turn into undead spawn, use a bladed item on the bones quickly and repeatidly to destroy them before they turn into spawn. A room full of rotting corpses makes focusing on DF difficult.
- You can always search for pcoin mobs aswell, there all over pandora and give pandora coins (worth about 3k each, or you can buy some sweet stuff with them). They are all over pandora, i think wind was just made a pcoin mob hot spot. If you don't know what the pcoin mobs are, go to the pcoin mob zoo, use any public gate to get there.
- Joinning PvM events (use any public gate when you see theres one going on) is always fun and can give you a sense of what to expect doing spawns before going out to do them on your own

[skaven]

- The mines are super easy with any pet. Can get lesser ToTs to trade it
- Swoop is easy if you have a pet to tank him (weak agaisnst energy)

Are we talking of Greater Dragons here, or any pet for both (like the newbie glass city bake kitsune?)

- Mini champs aren't always the easiest to solo, it consider guilding up or pacing yourself through them. The many issue isnt what the spawn is, but the fact that they spawn in numbers.

A greater dragon could help or it is overwhelming anyway? I am building a sampire suit to go along with the dragon, so i think i could cope with a high number/low level spawn and then use the pet to finish the high level spawn one by one (Peacemaking FTW)

- Miasma got a buff, hes kinda badass now, i have difficulty solo him, so be cautious, he can move a same speed as you when mounted and inflicts poison.

Will move to higher priority

- Baracoon can be done solo, takes a lil time, and watch out for the silver serpents as they can over power you when in high numbers and also inflict poison. But the big issue with this guy is that you will be in fel zones and they get raided more often than not

I've gone far and wide in Ilshenar without encountering PK till now. I believe in what you say, but really, in my experience, that is not an issue for me.

- Medusa has got alot of hit points, but can easily be done with a small group of melee characters cross healing. You can't use pets on her cause she will clone them which will screw everything up if you use em.

Thanks for the tip! Moving to higher priority (when i have the sampire suit ready)

- Doom is always fun, theres groups that will regulary take people with them, check IRC cause they shout out when there going. You can solo all the champs there except Dark Fathers. He's badass. When fighting him he will throw unholy bones at you that will turn into undead spawn, use a bladed item on the bones quickly and repeatidly to destroy them before they turn into spawn. A room full of rotting corpses makes focusing on DF difficult.

Any guild you could suggest that regularly goes to Doom and other champs?
Group only activity, i think.

- Joinning PvM events (use any public gate when you see theres one going on) is always fun and can give you a sense of what to expect doing spawns before going out to do them on your own

Every time i joined in a PvM event, there were only one or two people there, so even with the lower champ spawn we didn't progress much... bad time zone i suppose.

SUMMARY:
From what you've said, my priority should be:

- ToT Dungeons-events (ankh, yomotsu, ecc.)
- Swoop
- DreadThorn ?!?
- Barracoon the Piper
- Wyvern (Renowned) ?!?
- Other mini-champs spawn ?!?
- Medusa (group)
- Miasma (group)
- Bedlam ?!? (group)
- Doom (group)
- Other Champs spawn (group)

It is right?

[Casho]

Why do you need such a list ?
Just check out which one you can beat and which are to hard to kill right now.

Even if there is no skill cap there are still differences to the armors, stats, skill points and of course to the personally tactics to kill something.

For example:
Maybe it is hard to kill pyre. But it is easy as a sampire if you know which weapon you should use.

[skaven]

Maybe it is hard to kill pyre. But it is easy as a sampire if you know which weapon you should use.

Trying and get this kind of information is the reason i came here asking.
Or i would have gone to Medusa with my pet (messing it up), trying swoop in melee (messing it up) or trying Pyre without the right weapon... what kind of weapon it was?

Sharing your experience with others i think is for the better and not for the worst.

[Casho]

There are different ways to kill pyre and all the others.
The possibility to do something on different ways, and to find out my way, is one of the qualitie of UO.
There is not only one right way to do something.

I will never ask someone how to do something if I did not try it by my own before. To check out how I can do something is what I like to do.
And I would never answer generally questions about how to do everything. To find out how I can do something is a part of the game.

If you want to do something special and tried out different ways but can`t still reach your goal, from that point I would answer a question about that.

That are only my opinions.

[Jupiter]

a Greater Dragon is a good starter pet. You can use him to start your list and gage what you can and cannot take on. Theres no real guarantee that anyone can give you or fireproof method to take anything on, unless i saw you in action I cant really give any more pointers. I've never done DreadThorn, so i don't know squat about him. Im pretty sure there is a newbie guild that can help you out in game. Good Luck!

[skaven]

Just went on some foray against some minichamps.

Pixies:
I had Pixie Swatter. Done first phase without any difficulties. Second Phase, all wisps aggroed on me and i got busted...

Goblins:
Annoying as hell... i couldn't get them down with the basic glass pet in time ... i think they're resistant to Physical damage?!? (checked out, that's true). Go to second Phase, Scouts are even harder..

QUESTION: I went to the Fire Temple Spawn and there weren't any mobs. And to the Ancient Lich one, too. Is there some activity to turn on these champs?

Then went with some others at the Barraccon champ that was put on in the PvM monster Room. Nice and chaotic... all ratmen (me included) running around... i almost lost my corpse under a pile of dead ratmen.. and no Powerscroll too!

Best catch of the day: Going to the Yomotsu mines. Lots of money and some unraveling stuff. No lesser ToT arti though. Better luck next time.

Any hint about the minispawn champs?

[King Kong]

Mini champs in Abyss you mean? In Ter Mur?

If you see one -- it will have a statue there. You need to kill every monster that you see on the pedestals.

Sometimes a monster will wonder screens away, find him.

if you feel like it's not working or stuck. Send a page using help button at the main mini champ location and we will take a look.