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Updated PCoin room prices etc.

Started by outluke, July 09, 2010, 05:59:57 AM

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Lloth

#30
Hi all,

I think these changes are not only bad, also to newbees as I, currently the request for pcoins are doubled through the changes. Market Price follows this double but slower. Currently you can sell at 6k, i think i will go up to 10k because of shortage.

So as a newbee it makes also worth voting in economics aspects, you vote and have 12,5 k plus the 5 pcoins for 50 k thats for starting a decent amount of Gold.

For a veteran it makes things more pricy, but this how economics work. And i don't think it hurts sooo much.

Also some people who farm pcoins before update will now bring them to market and sell them (Price will go down) because its now worth.

I think all in one this is an economic change:

- You have to wait longer to earn an item you don't need
- You can better sell these items
- The offer of pcoins will in the long run increase, cause selling makes sense (not only for newbs)
- as a newbee you even have faster gold

I think seeing pcoin room as a reward room not as a cool shopping mall, will also increase the sense for player shops more, because you can't upgrade your items such easy.

These are my points of view as a Newbee-Player on Pandora.

Kind regards,

Ssin'eoul

Domos

#31
^^^, k lets do some math, so lets say I need 2000 coins for the item I want, I want to buy those coins.  Now, lets say that the new players are farming the coins at 5 per day. So, it would take 10 people, 40 DAYS to make enough coins for me to get that 1 item. Sure its profitable for them at some level but for only the new new new people cause 50k is a joke for anyone else. If the price does shoot up that high, know whats going to happen? All the veteran players will be camping ALL the coin bosses and nobody else will get ANY coins because it just became the most profitable thing on the shard.

Kanu Unchou

#32
right now i dont really know what to do with my pcoins. sell them? keep them? not sure if the vet players will now camp the coin mobs, i just killed Jasper. then again, i'm playing at euro times, so that may shift some things for me.

Dleatherus

#33
mmm ... i'm missing something here

why would only the vet players camp the coin bosses????

a newcomer can join, bring up taming, just like the vets did, and get a nice pet, just like the vets did, get a rune book of coin boss locations, (the vets had to crawl around the entire world looking for coin boss spawns)and farm away ... literally within a matter of days ... the majority of coin boss locations are in tram rules facets so new or old players have no fear of getting pk'd

they just put in more coin bosses to allow for the growing population of the community

a lot of the vets i have discussed this topic with have cut way back on their coin farming since they now have their luck suits, blessed bags etc, or have enough money that they buy the coins from others who have taken over hunting for them, and spend their time doing other things

out of curiosity i recalled around my somewhat pitiful collection of coin boss spots ... i have one rune book filled with spots, i know of folks who have three books!!!! ... of the 14 spots i recalled to, 11 of them had coin bosses up ... hardly a case of coin bosses being being farmed by anybody, vet or newcomer

Domos

#34
I said it will happen if the price of the coins skyrockets, hasnt happened yet. Its a simple fact, you make something extremely profitable and it will become extremely competetive. More coin bosses and faster respawn times would avoid some of the problem...
 You also have to remember that: not every new player knows the game well enough to get a greater dragon in 2 days, or enough to know where to look for new bosses, or enough to survive fighting half of them. Something that seems easy to an experienced player can take weeks for many others.

King Kong

#35
Let me break this down.

Pandora Coins are easy to get, I mean you get 10 voting twice a day. So something like a spell channeling deed and reg bag, those things are very expensive items and very useful. Also take in count, I change prices all the time, and how I change that is I can see how many Pandora Coins are on the shard and I use a equation on how much average each person has etc etc. Dont worry the prices will go down soon again, but since we have been growing so fast there has been a surge of Pandora Coins. Last thing I want to do is have those items to easily obtained, and then what? You have everything you want and you get bored. The point of Ultima Online is to go on a journy. Should a newbie even be able to be close to get a reg bag? No, must be worked for. It's part of the adventure, make it so there is always a goal.

But the prices will go back down, I am waiting a couple of days.

Also keep in mind we are adding in soon, that everytime you do a PVM event, you will get some coins for showing up, when we put in the pvp event, the 1st and 2nd will get coins. We have a lot more ideas for getting coins easier, and there are coin monsters all over the shard.


Treasures of Tokuno

We believe in high risk = high reward. ToT's again should be things that are a challenge, so it forces you to use teamwork so you don't get pked. And really if you think about it, it makes it more fun, the cat and mouse game. Also the greater ToT's are so good, the last thing I want is flooding shard with them.

If you could get them all over tokuno? (like it was before) people will just camp champ spawn in tokuno and get 10 lesser tots in no time, then a month down the road everyone has the best greater tots and boom they are not worth anything anymore.

Also If you read the updates -- Every week on Tuesday is Tokuno ToT day - Meaning you can get ToT's anywhere in Tokuno - and that is a Trammel Facet, so look there, we even balanced it out for very new players... Wait till Tuesday to collect it.

People will always complain when things become challenging, but that is part of the game and the job of a shard owner I expect that. But 80% of the shard has complete trust in Gizmo and my decisions. We are all on the same team, with 30 Years combined experience of UO on our team, please trust what were doing is best in the long. All I can ask is for faith and know we will continue to make balance and the shard #1.

Long Live the King... So please vote everyday. Cause I want to live.

King Kong

#36
Just one more note from my post above.


(by the way I have lowered some Pandora Coin prices due to people spending them last day or 2)


Kellog's Corn Flakes cost 10 cents in 1908

2010 around $4.00 dollars?

Like real life. We will adjust. :)

Long Live the King... So please vote everyday. Cause I want to live.

Arminius

#37
lol just to complete this - The average wage in the U.S. was 22 cents per hour in 1906  :lol:

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